GM/Cadillac entering Formula 1

[pmsmechanic]

One thing about a AWD or a 4wd suv. They might go good but they don't stop any better on ice or snowy roads than a normal buggy and that sudden stop (as in hitting something) is always bad.

This hasn't been my experience. When you have all 4 wheels tied together and hit the brakes on ice it sure is nice that the front wheels stay turning because they are linked to the rear wheels. Other wise they will start sliding long before the rear wheels because or the built in braking bias for dry weather.

 

[5030]

In as much as I refrain from driving on snow or ice if I can avoid it, I'll take your word for it.

 

[Renze]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-to-power-cadillac-f1-team-in-multi-year-agreement/10681394/

Just as i thought... Ford once beat Ferrari with a British Lola chassis with a 427 Nascar engine (GT40) so Ferrari doesn't hesitate to give GM their engine as long as they have to develop their own chassis...Cadillac in F1 will be cute, but prove nothing.

 

[ruffdog]

This hasn't been my experience. When you have all 4 wheels tied together and hit the brakes on ice it sure is nice that the front wheels stay turning because they are linked to the rear wheels. Other wise they will start sliding long before the rear wheels because or the built in braking bias for dry weather.

That is the way my 1991 Jeep Wrangler was. It was HORRIBLE on ice if you were not in 4x4 because the front tires started skidding way before the rears did. Thank goodness for anti locking brake systems now.

 

[5030]

One Jeep was more than enough for me. Had a CJ7 way back when and it was horrible on snowy or icy roads, even in the rain it was sketchy. Short wheelbase, not good. Terrible heat in the winter (soft top), wife had to bundle up with a comforter in the winter to keep from freezing. Remember one time going down a snow covered 2 lane and it swapped ends and I went in the ditch. Never have another one, ever.

Wasn't that good off road either, least up in the woods. Clutch linkage kept coming off anytime you got it in a twist and it got terrible fuel mileage as well.

 

[swines]

Ford is returning to F1 in 2026 with Red Bull Racing and Scudiera AlphaTauri racing teams. Ford won 10 Constructor's Championships, 13 driver's championships, and 174 Grand Prix races. Ford is contributing electric motor technology, control software, and analytics for the teams.

 

[swines]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-to-power-cadillac-f1-team-in-multi-year-agreement/10681394/

Just as i thought... Ford once beat Ferrari with a British Lola chassis with a 427 Nascar engine (GT40) so Ferrari doesn't hesitate to give GM their engine as long as they have to develop their own chassis...Cadillac in F1 will be cute, but prove nothing.

Not quite true. The first car Ford raced at LeMans was based on the Lola MK6 GT and used the Ford 289 V8. Those cars were raced in 1964. After that, Ford designed the entire car. The chassis and motors were built by Holman Moody and the bodies were fabricated by Kar Kraft. Ford did the aerodynamic development for the body, drive line engineering, suspension engineering, and braking system engineering including the changeable brake assembly. The Mark IV cars that won in 1966, 1967, 1968, and 1969 had Holman Moody manufacturer's plates on the chassis. This is documented in several books.

 

[Renze]

Ford is returning to F1 in 2026 with Red Bull Racing and Scudiera AlphaTauri racing teams. Ford won 10 Constructor's Championships, 13 driver's championships, and 174 Grand Prix races. Ford is contributing electric motor technology, control software, and analytics for the teams.

Ford, or Cosworth with a bag of money from Ford?

 

[Renze]

Not quite true. The first car Ford raced at LeMans was based on the Lola MK6 GT and used the Ford 289 V8. Those cars were raced in 1964. After that, Ford designed the entire car.

Eric Broadly, owner and chief engineer of the Lola company, helped Ford to further advance his Lola design into later Mk's of GT40

 

[swines]

Ford, or Cosworth with a bag of money from Ford?

You didn't read what I wrote previously, or if you did you didn't understand it. So, let's go over this again. "Ford is contributing electric motor technology, control software, and analytics for the teams."

Here, let me help - ELECTRIC MOTOR TECHNOLOGY.

Ford is doing the electrical motor portion of the F1 drive train. Starting in 2026, an F1 car's power unit has to have a 50:50 split between internal combustion and electric. The goal is for the cars to use only 70 kg of fuel for an entire race. The kinetic motor-generator unit goal is to produce 350 kW or about 3x what the current hybrid cars are capable of.

The cars will be lighter and active aerodynamics will be allowed with front and rear wings.

Now before you attempt to throw shade at Ford for electric vehicles, you might want to look at some videos of the 1400 HP Mach E prototype and the 2000 HP electric supervan that is faster than a current F1 car...