Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down

   / Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down #21  
Tractors are not like trucks or cars. The brakes on a tractor are limited at best. When one is going down hill with a tractor the worst thing they could do is apply brakes. Once a tractor starts sliding the driver is along for the ride. I was taught when going down hill with a tractor too select a low gear and push the throttle up and let the engine do the braking.

We used this method in the early fifties when mowing pond dams with a red international cub with a belly mounted sickle mower. Even then if damp grass was encountered the rear wheels would start sliding and we would keep the wheels straight and ride or slide to the bottom.

I definetly would not be going down hill with a loader full of material, regardless of the tractor size.
 
   / Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down #22  
If you go down with a loaded bucket, the load needs to be low and on the high side. This means you are backing down. If you have a brush mower, this will help balance the tractor. If you lower it, it will help keep the front end down when going up the hill. The good thing with your tires is that you should lose traction before the pinon overdrives and flips the tractor over backwards.
 
   / Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down #23  
read up on your local laws. you can get into some hefty fines. when you start messing around with water ways. even if it is dry. at the moment. the issue more comes up when dirt / rock / sand or like gets tossed into the equation. and disturbing it enough for wash outs and like to happen.
 
   / Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down
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Already have, Many laws have changed. I have permits already.
 
   / Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down #25  
45 degrees is steep, and with turf tires :/ i doubt i would try it. even using the FEL (front end loader) general duty bucket, to slowly push / pull tractor back up hill, i think you would never gain enough traction via wheels. to get back up the hill. chains on rear and fronts might help ((double check owners manual, some tractors it is ok, some times it is not ok)) for chains and or adding fluid to the front tires.

don't get me wrong, i have gotten into some pretty hairy situations. were i thought i was done for. and a couple times i had to get something else to drag myself out. but with ya asking questions here on forum, and no way for any of us to get feet on ground looking at situation. it is completely different story. i am going to play it safe. and say do not try it.

i get a little uneasy when folks start wanting to add sand and messing with dirt around creeks / rivers. a flash flood to a high flood, can quickly wipe out areas, taken large rocks to small rock all down stream. with only a limited amount of posts from you, and your questions. and equipment at hand. i am going to push for getting someone in there locally and getting there opinion. have some cash on hand, and pay 20 to 50 bucks or something worth there time as a professional perhaps.

i know i am sounding mean / troll like. but more of wanting to make sure ya get better help with feet on ground. and able to walk the area and get a better idea of what you are wanting to do. so you are not tossing cash away. in case you messed up in planning / getting it all done.
 
   / Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down #26  
I personally would not attempt a 45 degree angle with my tractor. If you do decide to attempt this please wear your seat belt, ROPS up and have a person with a cell watching you.
 
   / Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down #27  
As I interpret the vectors you need a traction coefficient of 1 to deal with 45 degrees. AGs are right about that. Theres little or no margin. ... Nevertheless, I wish there was a reasonably unobstructed 45 slope here on the farm. I would be interested to feel it out a bit.
 
   / Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down #28  
I really don't think the hill is 45 degrees. If it really is I wouldn't dare run my tractor down it. That is about the best way I can think of to get the tractor shiny side down. This pistol berm is supposed to only be 37 degrees. The berm in the last picture is a little steeper. They had a good range dog too. image-3810153832.jpg image-3162365489.jpg image-2688942976.jpg image-3990901898.jpg
 
   / Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down #29  
If that's 37 deg. in the first pic, I'd be looking for Plan B. Cutting down from the top and pushing the spoils ahead to fill in the at the bottom of the slope should work to make a longer but less steep grade. I'd guess it would end up with a 5-6 foot deep trench at the lip on top of the slope if the height is 20'.
 
   / Going up and down a hill not riding sideways mowing. Just straight up and down #30  
45 is too steep. Don't do it. You need another solution, be it a road or whatever. But don't do it otherwise.
 

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