Buying Advice Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes

/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #21  
I think OSHA or the insurance companies must have changed something or added something because I've seen several nice drill presses in the dump. They all looked like they came from businesses, had the usual "wear safety glasses" type stickers on them. I've already got a nice 1 1/2 HP DP so I didn't bother digging. I'm guessing somebody must be pulling them out and putting them on Craigs list.
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #22  
Hi all
Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes in 1/4" or 1/2" plate metal. Which you do you guys suggest and what capacity I should buy. I want it to last for long time and I am not frequent user of the tool

Any inputs are appreciated

Ganesh

Good, cheap, and last a long time go together like BP oil and water. It's not going to happen. I have a Jet 17" floor drill press I bought in the mid-90's It gets a lot of use, some rare abuse and is a good machine. I can't speak about the current ones though. 200-RPM is its slowest speed which is too slow for 1/2" bits.

lets see.. 'good' 'cheap' 'long life'

:) those don't work.

drilling plate is also a function of good drill bits.

guess it's not something you could torch or plasma cutter out is it? does it have to be precise?

soundguy

I'd hazard a guess if the OP had a plasma cutter and/or a torch, he could afford a decent drill press. Otherwise he better find a good, cheap, and reliable fab shop (another oxymoron) or a buddy to burn his plate.
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #24  
When Agri Supply first came to Florence, SC in 1984? I bought 2 new foreign made drill presses from them. The floor standing model for larger slower cutting and the bench top small model for smaller faster drilling. I have drilled 1" plate using 3/4 bits, 1/2 in plate with 1" bits, have used them both pretty extensively over the years and both are still in good working order. The HF drill presses are basically the same thing.

I agree, there are better drill presses and love to restore and use old iron, but deals are not always out there so we do what we have to do to get through the times. If you can't find a good deal on a used one, the HF model will work. And if you go to Craftsman or some other big box brand, you are still getting a HF tool with different paint and decals.
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #25  
I've had my share of, had to have quickly to do the job tools from HF. Dumb tools like spring compressors, presses and the like are OK. I had to completely re-weld my shop press though.Hyd. cyl. are so so.(their cylinder finish at the microscopic level is not as good-wears out seals faster) Electric die grinder OK after replacing twice-not as smooth as others but good enough at the price.For my really HD stuff-I use air anyways. As an observation after many years using my shop tools and fabricating numerous other "tools" and what not, horsepower must mean something else to the Chinese. I have several bench grinders throughout the shop: some 1/2hp, some 1/3. As you know, you'd be hard pressed to find an american made bench grinder today. Anyway, the 1/2hp HF is a joke, it can be stopped or overheated by what I would consider mild pressure grinding, Black and Decker 1/3hp runs circles around that one. An OLD, and I mean OLD Delta stand model that I bought 30 years ago at a high school auction- can't be stopped. You can put your body weight into that grinding and it doesn't slow it down.(1/2 hp on steroids). Mind you, the delta was many years old then as they were selling their Old equipment to get new. My advise, hit the garage /estate sales hard for older, better equipment.Think of tools as an investment. When you're gone, your kids will love them knowing they were dads good tools.
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #26  
I'd hazard a guess if the OP had a plasma cutter and/or a torch, he could afford a decent drill press. Otherwise he better find a good, cheap, and reliable fab shop (another oxymoron) or a buddy to burn his plate.

maybee maybee not.

I have a decent torch.. but a cheap drill press..

soundguy
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes
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#27  
As I am the original poster, I have Hobart Plasma cutter good for upto 1/2" plate. I need good looking holes as the plate is going to go on Engine of my old truck to bolt oil filer brackets.

I do not want to do with Hand drill, it just takes too long. HF floor model with 20% off coupon should be able to get it for ~150 bucks which is 3/4 hp and 16 speed. If that is good enough I will go for it.

What do you all think of that one? I had good and bad experiences with HF tool, mostly electrical power tools were bad, but all Welded metal stands and air tools are holding up.

Ganesh
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #28  
Unless I had the money AND NEED for a really good drill press, that is what I would buy, if you go with Craftsman or any other cheaper brand, you are basically getting the same thing.
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #29  
I do not want to do with Hand drill, it just takes too long. HF floor model with 20% off coupon should be able to get it for ~150 bucks which is 3/4 hp and 16 speed. If that is good enough I will go for it.

Lots of folks on woodworking forums report that is a decent drill press and unbeatable for the money. Most stuff from Craftsman is essentially the same but for lots more money.
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #30  
Lots of folks on woodworking forums report that is a decent drill press and unbeatable for the money. Most stuff from Craftsman is essentially the same but for lots more money.
Craftsman is not the only "American" company selling Taiwon made drill presses. Delta does the same thing too.

I try to buy American made but if I can find a tool at HB for half of what Craftsman costs and the chuck and bearings for example seem the same, why spend more for the name?
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes
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#31  
This is what finally I settled with

12 Speed Bench Top Drill Press

The way to adjust is by moving the belts on pulleys. Is that the only way to adjust the speed. I thought adjusting the speed will be just dialing. But I have to move the belts. May thatz what 100 bucks will buy me.

A question on how long should I take to make 1/2" holes on a 1/4" plate. I was taking too long may be my drill bit was not sharp or something.

Any advise please.

Ganesh
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #32  
What speed do you have the drill set at? Should be the lowest available. Are you using oil and a new carbide bit?
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes
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#33  
What speed do you have the drill set at? Should be the lowest available. Are you using oil and a new carbide bit?

Speed was set some where in 950 -1000, drill bit was from black & decker and I didnot use it much. I did use oil

Still took a long time
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #34  
Speed was set some where in 950 -1000, drill bit was from black & decker and I didnot use it much. I did use oil

Still took a long time

for a 1/2" hole in steel, that's probably double (or more) what you want. 500~ish rpm with some sort of lubricant/coolant. if i am just drilling one or two holes, i use whatever is handy - wd-40, penetrating oil, pb blaster... really any fluid is better than none in a pinch. even a squirt gun full of water will beat nothing at all.

the 7mm key for the downfeed handle in my new (used) rf-30 just arrived. i threw a 3/4 bit (old and poorly sharpened freehand) in and bored a nice smooth clean hole with it at 150rpm. made nice spiral shavings, which is a good indication that it is drilling correctly. small chips are ok to a point, but small filings is a bad sign.
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #35  
I have essentially that same press under a store brand name.

I use cutting oil and good hss or better bits.. lowest drill speed. 1/4" mild steel should drill thru, in way les than a minute.

remember to center punch the metal so the drill doesn't walk or bind.

use a drip or squirt oiler.

soundguy
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #37  
I do not have too many holes to drill but when I need I need. But I am just tired with my drills, I have dewalt one a good one but I run out of patience. you said 200 rpm, that sounds too low and is it good to that low for metal.

Thanks though

Ganesh

fwiw & imho,
Consider a Starrett Feeds and Speeds Chart. Obviously does not have to be Starrett but a Feeds and Speeds Chart/Poster is good for anyone looking for proper tool life, finish, and performance.

My suggestion is to forget a drill press and buy an old Bridgeport Knee Mill. Never was a man who had access to a good mill that wanted anything to do with a drill press... I learned a trade on $3K Powermatic Drilling Centers and progressed to second hand, bought for less than the drill presses, belt head Bridgeports that made you wonder why they ever made a Drill Press. Just an opinion...

Regards, Matt Garrett.

Btw, Is your name actually Ganesh? I only ask as they are large importer of foreign lathes, machine tools, etc... Ironic.
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes
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#38  
Btw, Is your name actually Ganesh? I only ask as they are large importer of foreign lathes, machine tools, etc... Ironic.[/QUOTE]

Matt

Thanks for the info, yes my name is Ganesh and Ganesh is the name of famous Indian Elephant GOD. You will have too many Ganesh's in India

Ganesh
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #39  
This is what finally I settled with

12 Speed Bench Top Drill Press

The way to adjust is by moving the belts on pulleys. Is that the only way to adjust the speed. I thought adjusting the speed will be just dialing. But I have to move the belts. May thatz what 100 bucks will buy me.

A question on how long should I take to make 1/2" holes on a 1/4" plate. I was taking too long may be my drill bit was not sharp or something.

Any advise please.

Ganesh

If you get a variable speed drill press for <$100, it will come from someplace cheaper than China. Africa maybe?

Speed was set some where in 950 -1000, drill bit was from black & decker and I didnot use it much. I did use oil

Still took a long time

Please define too long? 950 - 1,000 RPM is too fast. Per my Machinery's Handbook tables I use, a 1/2" drill bit with a cutting speed of 60 FPM (Feet Per Minute) has an RPM of 459; 70 FPM translates to 535 RPM. These numbers are conservative and I'm basing my use of them on 1010 grade steel. Even at 100 FPM, the RPM is in the low 700's.

My suggestion is to forget a drill press and buy an old Bridgeport Knee Mill. Never was a man who had access to a good mill that wanted anything to do with a drill press... I learned a trade on $3K Powermatic Drilling Centers and progressed to second hand, bought for less than the drill presses, belt head Bridgeports that made you wonder why they ever made a Drill Press. Just an opinion...

Regards, Matt Garrett.

Since the OP was looking for a cheap drill press; I doubt a Bridgeport knee mill is in his budget.
 
/ Good/cheap drill press for making 1/2" holes #40  
mjncad said:
Since the OP was looking for a cheap drill press; I doubt a Bridgeport knee mill is in his budget.

mjncad,
You are likely right, however, have you seen what old belt drive Bridgeports often go for? I've seen them offered by widows just to get them out of the garage. That was a one time thing, however, there are a ton of them around and thought he might want a bit of food for thought.

Many, many direct answers about drill presses. One suggestion to consider another option. Might be out in left field or it might open up a new world of capability to him. In short I dunno, however, I like going into a situation with as much information as possible.

NEVER met a guy who did not fall in love with a decent Bridgeport. Lathes are neat but a little more specific and have a steeper learning curve...

In short just a thought...
 

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