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Five Reasons Why Diesel Makes More Torque than Gas
interesting basic training video on how torque is made.
Basic idea that torque equals force times distance. The distance part explains a lot about engine design.
One only has to look at Ford's experience with the Ecoboost gas engines to know that turbocharging
has almost become a must for gas engines now, like it became for diesel.
Or...like FCA has done with hybridizing their new Ram engines, add a battery for on demand power.
Likely best solution is to add both, but sure getting a complex possibly high maintenance engine by then.
I've owned a Golf diesel and a Cummins dually. Now I only have three diesel tractors and two diesel mowers, no vehicles.
Pretty sure our future is electric, with all that instant torque available.
When the Yanmar 3600 rpm diesels came out in the marine market, everyone (Cummins followers, etc) thought they would be
nickle rockets, blowing up at 1000 hours. Nope. Some of the best long life engines out there. More maintenance needed though...
When Ford's ecoboost sixes came out, opinion was the same, going to blow. Well they haven't either...
Is there a maximum piston speed at rated power that would be smart not to exceed assuming one wanted long life?
Though few of us run at rated power most of the time. We want the torque way down low, to get the weight moving, which is why
electric power is so tantalizing. Tesla's silly truck accelerates so fast you'd wreck your load for sure...just stupid to think a truck has to accelerate that fast,
or should. Anyone who has ever tied down a load knows avoiding G forces is a really good idea.
I call it limo mode, like you were driving a limo for an old lady in the back.
Look at most of your standard, currently bottom of the line usually V6's naturally aspirated in trucks and cars and they are always weak on torque.
Running empty, fine. With a load, not much fun and you sure wind up in the right lane.
Driving my Golf diesel was remarkably fun. One thing to be in a big truck but another to be in a small good handling car that really scoots
when you floor it. Too bad VW had to wreck that market. And now they say they are optimistic on diesels, that came out a few days' ago.
For torque, you seem to pretty much need turbos or electric today.
Or like those ancient super long throw stationary engines that are the sizes of small houses, a really long stroke.
so what torques you?
interesting basic training video on how torque is made.
Basic idea that torque equals force times distance. The distance part explains a lot about engine design.
One only has to look at Ford's experience with the Ecoboost gas engines to know that turbocharging
has almost become a must for gas engines now, like it became for diesel.
Or...like FCA has done with hybridizing their new Ram engines, add a battery for on demand power.
Likely best solution is to add both, but sure getting a complex possibly high maintenance engine by then.
I've owned a Golf diesel and a Cummins dually. Now I only have three diesel tractors and two diesel mowers, no vehicles.
Pretty sure our future is electric, with all that instant torque available.
When the Yanmar 3600 rpm diesels came out in the marine market, everyone (Cummins followers, etc) thought they would be
nickle rockets, blowing up at 1000 hours. Nope. Some of the best long life engines out there. More maintenance needed though...
When Ford's ecoboost sixes came out, opinion was the same, going to blow. Well they haven't either...
Is there a maximum piston speed at rated power that would be smart not to exceed assuming one wanted long life?
Though few of us run at rated power most of the time. We want the torque way down low, to get the weight moving, which is why
electric power is so tantalizing. Tesla's silly truck accelerates so fast you'd wreck your load for sure...just stupid to think a truck has to accelerate that fast,
or should. Anyone who has ever tied down a load knows avoiding G forces is a really good idea.
I call it limo mode, like you were driving a limo for an old lady in the back.
Look at most of your standard, currently bottom of the line usually V6's naturally aspirated in trucks and cars and they are always weak on torque.
Running empty, fine. With a load, not much fun and you sure wind up in the right lane.
Driving my Golf diesel was remarkably fun. One thing to be in a big truck but another to be in a small good handling car that really scoots
when you floor it. Too bad VW had to wreck that market. And now they say they are optimistic on diesels, that came out a few days' ago.
For torque, you seem to pretty much need turbos or electric today.
Or like those ancient super long throw stationary engines that are the sizes of small houses, a really long stroke.
so what torques you?