Got me a tractor!

[Mith]

Today my first proper tractor, a new to me B6000E with topper.
Seems to work all OK, but i havent trried the PTO yet
Yes, before you all yell, pictures coming tomorrow, too dark right now
Only slight thing i see with it, water trickles out of a tube coming from the radiator cap, what does this mean/what does it do. Slightly concerned about this, he said there may be a slight leak in the radiator or something but i cant see anything.
thanks

 

[DmansPadge]

Congrats mith! I came close to buying a 6100E before I found my B7300. The 6000's are neat little tractors.

The hose you are talking about leaking is the overflow. If it leaks all the time then you need a new radiator cap. If it only leaks when the engine is at operating temperature it could be the cap or that the engine is overheating. Does it have a temp gauge?

 

[Bird]

On radiators without a coolant recovery jug, the level of coolant will always be an inch or so below the top. If you fill it up when it's cool, the first time you run it, as the water heats and expands, it will push the surplus out the overflow tube. And if you leave it alone, it will quit doing that when it reaches the proper level.

 

[Mith]

ok, its about 3/4 an inch from the cap, so maybe its too full
it does it when warm not necesarily hot, the max lengh time i have run it for is about 10 mins with a couple of hours between each run
the water is brown in coulor i think, looks like rust kinda thing
what dya think
i cant see that it would be overheating so soon after starting up, the cap looks fine, but it has no temp guage to confirm this
i hope it isnt overheating, obviously, everything else seems to work so well
the only other thing is it give out LOADS of while smoke on startup, an i mean loads, is this right
thanks all, i really appreciate the help, especailly as its my first proper tractor my first non-single cylinder engine and my first diesel and my first water cooled, thank you

 

[Bird]

Looks brown? Unless you have a different color antifreeze in your part of the world than I've ever seen, there's some rust there. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif So the first thing I'd do is flush it thoroughly, then refill it with a 50/50 mix of water/antifreeze; no more than 50% antifreeze and no less than 40% if it were me. Even if you don't have freezing weather, most antifreeze has some rust inhibitors and lubricants in them.

 

[Mith]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( So the first thing I'd do is flush it thoroughly )</font>
ummm, how? sorry but really i dont have a clue about diesels, or water cooling for that matter
as to the antifreeze somewhere i heard that model had a kubota thermo siphoning cooling of summat and you have to have special ratios antifreeze water, anyone fill in here, or Bird have you already taken this into account.
What problems are caused by rust in the coolant and what is it caused by, as i said i have little experience here.
Dont have a clue what colour antifreeze is here, possibly blue? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
thanks for your help, i just hope i havent bought the worlds most expensive scrap /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
thanks

 

[BigAl]

The white smoke sounds like unburned fuel to me . Are you setting the fuel thottle to high at start up ? Do you have glow plugs to help it start ? Usually white smoke means you have too much fuel in the pistons on start up . It could be injectors or a fuel injector pump out of time .
If the white smoke dissappears as soon as it comes out of the muffler pipe you might be seeing steam . That's not good ! That could mean a head gasket leak or a cracked head on the motor which would also explain the water coming out of the overflow tube as undue pressure builds in the radiator .
Big Al

 

[Bird]

Mith, I'm not really very familiar with that model, but I would expect it to have the thermo siphoning system (no water pump), but if you open the drain cock on the bottom tank of the radiator (below the core) most of the coolant should run out. Then I'd probably just put the garden hose in the top and run fresh water through it to flush it out some. I usually start the water running, then start the engine and run fresh water through with the engine running until the water runs clear, shut the engine down, turn off the water hose, and wait on all the water to run out. And yes, that's one reason I said to use NO MORE than 50% antifreeze; 40% would do. Problems caused by rust? Well, if it gets bad enough, it will stop up something and water will not circulate and the engine will overheat.

 

[BigAl]

Bird ? May I add to your post ? If Mith has a lot of minerals in his water he is using , he might want to go buy a couple gallons of distilled water at the store to mix with his anti freeze after he is done flushing the system or his rust problem will come right back again.
Big Al

 

[Mith]

Al and Brid thanks, ill give that a try when i get time, possibly tomorrow
yes i do set the throttle high, and i havent noticed the smoke disappearing as soon as it comes out the exhaust, ill take a look next time i start it up
surely if it were steam it would come out all the time when the engine is running?
it looks like diesel smoke but as i say im not exactly sure
one thing i would say it didnt give out somke when the old owner before me started it up and drove it into the van, but he said he had driven it half an hour before. i use the glow pugs but i dont really know how long ot use them for, ive only really started it twice, and id say i used 30 secs of glow plugs. the smoke wasnt really noticable when anyone but me started it, but then again i wasnt really looking at the smoke or lack of it
i will give the draining a go, what if i were to drain out all the water, fill it up, run it a bit, drain it out and fill again, repeting until the water is clear, i dont really want to run it not full of water
sorry about the long post, thanks for you help all
and thanks for your words Ron, i too think they are neat tractors, maybe mine is a bit well used (or abused /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif)