Got the tractor....now I need a trailer

schmism · Jul 11, 2014

I have a 10K 20' flat and would not have a trailer a foot shorter for nothin.

breadtrk · Jul 11, 2014

I made a simple spreadsheet in excel, then emailed it to my android phone. I can show the guy that has pulled me over exactly how much I am hauling, depending which implements I have on that day.

CJONE · Jul 14, 2014

lubepimp said:
Ha ha, yes I bought the Ram for the simple reason you mention above.

How does a trailer get de-rated? Simply have the manufacturer change the badge?

Yes, that is all they have to do is change the rating on the plate when the trailer is built. Or submit the SN of the trailer to the MFG and request a new lower sticker/plate. I think this is common in Ohio also. CJ

bironacad · Feb 16, 2015

CJONE said:
Yes, that is all they have to do is change the rating on the plate when the trailer is built. Or submit the SN of the trailer to the MFG and request a new lower sticker/plate. I think this is common in Ohio also. CJ

Excuses me for being late to this thread, lol, just checked the MTO (ministry transport Ontario) license designations for trailering non recreational vehicles. There is a 10,000lb limit even for D license for max towed vehicle. The D license allows for a larger tow vehicle, lol, no difference to the vehicle being towed. The thing is if you can prove the trailer and load is under the 10,000lb limit you are ok even if the trailer is rated for 14,000lbs. The problem though is the trailer itself will be heavier thereby reducing the payload. If the trailer is 1,000lbs heavier the total payload would drop by that weight.

I have a D licence and there is no advantage over G for non recreational towing, man wish I hadn't let my A go, lol.:thumbdown:

CJONE · Feb 17, 2015

bironacad said:
Excuses me for being late to this thread, lol, just checked the MTO (ministry transport Ontario) license designations for trailering non recreational vehicles. There is a 10,000lb limit even for D license for max towed vehicle. The D license allows for a larger tow vehicle, lol, no difference to the vehicle being towed. The thing is if you can prove the trailer and load is under the 10,000lb limit you are ok even if the trailer is rated for 14,000lbs. The problem though is the trailer itself will be heavier thereby reducing the payload. If the trailer is 1,000lbs heavier the total payload would drop by that weight.

I have a D licence and there is no advantage over G for non recreational towing, man wish I hadn't let my A go, lol.:thumbdown:

Yep, that's why I could never figure why someone would derate a heavy trailer, doesn't make any sense. Oh wait we are talking about laws and government regs. Nevermind. I will not let my CDL A go unless I have to just for these reasons. CJ

powerscol · Feb 23, 2015

lubepimp said:
Think I will be looking 20-24', but I need to stay with 10k...heavier capacity requires a different license up here and as it's for personal use I don't see the need for any extra bills.

Are all makes/manufacturers essentially the same quality? Any options I can't do without?

Several things to consider. First width of your tractor and implements. I found that car haulers, or low tilt decks would not work for me based on tractor and baler tire width. I needed a 102" deck over. Next came hitch weight. I have and F350 dually and even with the heaviest equalizing hitch I could find, my loaded trailer pin weight exceeded the bumper pull hitch so I went with a goose neck.

For a safety factor I went with a 14K unit (better tires and bigger breaks) from PJ. Its a GN 20' flat deck with 3' dove tail to ease the loading and break over point (check that). Original rating was 14K, but had it de-rated to stay under the 26K GVW for combined units (truck and trailer). Ill never get that heavy, but needed to, for getting tags. Trailer is an F8 PJ unit. Also check ramp widths for loading tractor and wheel implement. I had to go with the wider ramps as my baler tires are set much wider than the tractor tires

Hope this helps