Got to love developments in rural areas

[Larry Caldwell]

Oh def had long conversations with my cardio team about an ICD. Risks for me outweigh the benefits. I have no heart damage from the event. My ejection fraction (the measure of heart health) is well within the normal range. For the ICD they have to insert a couple wires directly into your heart. Risks of infection, wire breakage and all kinds of stuff that I don't need.

My dr said since my EF is so high the risk of my having another arrest are so minimal that it is not even worth thinking about. Though I do have designs on purchase of an AED.

A pacemaker is a double edged sword, because they cannot legally shut it off to let you die. It will keep that lump of muscle beating far past the point that the rest of your body is dead. You might be lucky enough to stroke out, or like my mother, you could sit around until the battery goes dead and refuse to let them replace it. If you are not lucky, it can be a horrible way to go.

An AED is a good idea if you have bad arteries.

 

[Oaktree]

That's the whole point. 5 acres isn't that big and the people who live in the area don't want someone turning it into a landfill, junkyard, used car lot, etc. The land is millions of years old, you can never "own" it, you can only use it for a while and then it will be someone else's land. You would be pretty darn upset if you built an expensive, beautiful home and then a neighbor was piling junk cars against the property line 100 feet from your front door.

That's a BS argument that's used as a scare tactic to get people to go along with these restrictive regulations. I live in the boonies because I don't want a bunch of rules telling me what I can and cannot do. The price you pay, obviously is that your neighbors can do what they want as well, whether I like it or not.

Why should people who build "expensive beautiful homes" in rural areas have any special rights no one else has? I'd almost rather live near a junkyard than in a neighborhood full of McMansions, but that's just me.

Most people are reasonable. Yes there are some that are jerks, but it's a slippery slope when you try to regulate aesthetics.

 

[ultrarunner]

May be different elsewhere but several of my friends with acreage threw in the towel and they had nice to very nice places 10 to 40 acres.

The problem is fire related... insurance has become unaffordable if you can find it and coverage through special plans limited.

In addition having to hire crews annually with goats at the going rate is one way to clear rugged terrain loaded with poison oak or try to find hand crews but remember gas powered brush cutters already starting to be banned...

It's enough to get out and give up...

Plus new special fees calculated on parcel size can get pricey...

 

[Bill Guenthner]

That's a BS argument that's used as a scare tactic to get people to go along with these restrictive regulations. I live in the boonies because I don't want a bunch of rules telling me what I can and cannot do. The price you pay, obviously is that your neighbors can do what they want as well, whether I like it or not.

Why should people who build "expensive beautiful homes" in rural areas have any special rights no one else has? I'd almost rather live near a junkyard than in a neighborhood full of McMansions, but that's just me.

Most people are reasonable. Yes there are some that are jerks, but it's a slippery slope when you try to regulate aesthetics.

The person selling the land can attach any restrictions they want to. Don’t like it, don’t buy it. I prefer restrictions and if I ever sell any of my property it will have rigid restrictions or I’ll keep it. You’re free to buy in less desirable areas.

 

[TheMan419]

That's a BS argument that's used as a scare tactic to get people to go along with these restrictive regulations. I live in the boonies because I don't want a bunch of rules telling me what I can and cannot do. The price you pay, obviously is that your neighbors can do what they want as well, whether I like it or not.

Why should people who build "expensive beautiful homes" in rural areas have any special rights no one else has? I'd almost rather live near a junkyard than in a neighborhood full of McMansions, but that's just me.

Most people are reasonable. Yes there are some that are jerks, but it's a slippery slope when you try to regulate aesthetics.

Yeah our county just passed a bunch of ordinances. We now have to get a permit to build a fence. It appears even if it is a fence to keep your livestock in the proper place.

Also they now have an ordinance that you cannot have grass or vegitation more than 9 inches high. Thankfully they limited that to parcels less than I think 2 acres.... otherwise how would you grow crops.

I moved out here, in part, to avoid these kinds of things.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

An interesting observation - once told to me by a real-estate agent. Land value should be no more than 1/3 of the total package value. IOW - 100K land - 200K house = 300K.

A nice twenty acre chunk of land, around here, - 110K to 140K. All the big farmers already have their sprawling mansions on their land. Makes it pretty hard to sell a twenty acre chunk to a city dweller wanting to come out to the country. Anything smaller than twenty acres is pretty rare.

One of the advantages of high land values. I pay my high property taxes and enjoy my solitude out here. Plus most all the land to the East of me is Turnbull Nat Wildlife Refuge.

That's a developer's rule. 1/3 is the value of the land, one-third is the materials, one-third is the contractor costs summing to the market price. That rule hasn't been holding up with land and material prices rising. A land auction that just cooked off in my area had farmers bidding a million for 160 acres. We're dumbfounded that we're over 6K an acre and the repercussions for leasing land. Three years ago I had brokers calling me how I'd set land at $3500 an acre on a subdivision I'd listed.

 

[MossRoad]

A pacemaker is a double edged sword, because they cannot legally shut it off to let you die. It will keep that lump of muscle beating far past the point that the rest of your body is dead. You might be lucky enough to stroke out, or like my mother, you could sit around until the battery goes dead and refuse to let them replace it. If you are not lucky, it can be a horrible way to go.

An AED is a good idea if you have bad arteries.

Who's 'they'?

A year ago November we shut of my father in-law's pacemaker/defibrillator.

 

[MossRoad]

Yeah our county just passed a bunch of ordinances. We now have to get a permit to build a fence. It appears even if it is a fence to keep your livestock in the proper place.

Also they now have an ordinance that you cannot have grass or vegitation more than 9 inches high. Thankfully they limited that to parcels less than I think 2 acres.... otherwise how would you grow crops.

I moved out here, in part, to avoid these kinds of things.

The only thing I saw them pass was code enforcement. Didn't hear anything about fences, just the grass, dead cars, junk.

 

[Bill Guenthner]

My philosophy has always been this: If you can afford it, having control of the land around you is key for your privacy, security and peace of mind. Unfortunately, this can be difficult in urban areas. It's for this reason I moved to a fairly rural area that isn't too far from police, fire and medical services.

I started with 6 acres and bought the surrounding land as it became available. My 25 acre spread now consists of seven, 3 to four acre lots with my home comfortably in the center.

As is the case in many rural areas, development is encroaching on the countryside. There are two, 30 and 28 acre parcels up for development which border my property to the South and West. Both have poor public access. There are two developers trying to buy 3 of my lots to gain access to my private road. I quoted them an astronomical price which so far, they declined. I made counter offers on both parcels but the price was too high.

Right now, it's a waiting game. I'm comfortable with the situation as it is and can wait forever if necessary. I'm hoping the developers will eventually cave, sell me the land at a reasonable price and move on.

It's nice to be in the driver seat once in awhile instead of being run over all the time.

Eventually you’ll get taxed out. the PVA will raise your valuation to match your hold out price, Which will be hard to argue with because that’s what you say it’s worth.

 

[TheMan419]

The only thing I saw them pass was code enforcement. Didn't hear anything about fences, just the grass, dead cars, junk.

Yep it was in that same mess as the code enfocement. Don't know how they are going to enforce it.... unless it is neighbors calling you in because they are mad at you or something.