Gov't mandates gas can flame arrestors.

[retiredIW]

that means you legislate licensing and a required exam to get the license. That's your answer to #2 in particular, "he" hasn't been taught because we don't require to "you" have a license to buy gasoline, gasoline containers, or start bonfires. I don't want any of that. Do you want any of that?
putting more thoughts in idiot law making type persons mind then they get together and waallah. then you need a collage degree at a father in laws collage, then a special license to buy the can only made by another relative, then a special special place to get the gas, then a special license to transport and in a special vehicle and on and on. Kind like calling the atf and ask if you have a 5 shot shot gun is it Legal, if you add a removable plug to limit it to 3 as required buy rules.

 

[retiredIW]

got it from your second paragraph you posted

 

[aczlan]

It's been known since at least 1965 that this is a problem:

The problem is people "get away with it" and don't treat it with the proper respect and pass that to their kids who treat it with even less respect.

Aaron Z

 

[Grandude]

What does one of these gas can flame arrestor look like?

Just a simple piece of screen wire.

 

[Grandude]

From:

CPSC Requires Lifesaving Flame Mitigation Devices on Gas Cans and Other Portable Fuel Containers

"Many burn incidents involve liquid fuel used on a backyard fire pit, a campfire, a bonfire or burning trash."

Bruce

Blitz gave up and filed bankruptcy after 62 lawsuits from idiots pouring gasoline on fires. They were represented by billboard lawyers. Some of these creeps specialize in suing gas can manufacturers. America is the most lawsuit crazy country in the world. My son-in-law from The Netherlands can’t get over it.

From:

CPSC Requires Lifesaving Flame Mitigation Devices on Gas Cans and Other Portable Fuel Containers

"Many burn incidents involve liquid fuel used on a backyard fire pit, a campfire, a bonfire or burning trash."

Bruce

 

[mikester]

I can't speak for anyone but myself but to me the screen is a secondary issue, the primary issue is the over regulation that has become rampant in the U.S. Think about it, with all that is going wrong in this country and they are taking time to regulate gas cans? really? I hope our governor tells them where to go and someone in state starts making old fashioned gas cans and they make a fortune selling them to out of staters who are tired of living in a nanny state.
As already stated you can't legislate stupid and natural selection is going to bite some butts every year. For myself and the good of the country I KNOW the elected need to worry about the business of legitimate problems and people injuring or killing themselves with gas cans is not high on the priority list of the problems we face. Another man bun wearing @&& that is living proof that a person can be educated beyond their intelligence coming up with some bs problem to convince his equally over educated cronies how enlightened and needed he ( or she ) is to keep the great unwashed masses safe from theirselves.

Keep in mind a lot of safety rules come from a lot of people getting i injured and even dying. Public safety is more important than someone "feeling" that their rights are somehow infringed "by the man telling me what I can and can't do".

Common sense is an oxymoron.

 

[Citydude]

Maybe it's just me but mandating anything never eliminates a problem. Billy Bob is still going to pour gas on something and go up in smoke. The gas can is still culpable. Lol

 

[Dr_Zinj]

First of all, it's not necessary. In 64 years I've never had a problem with these; because I'm not stupid enough to pour gasoline or other burnable fluids on a fire or hot coals.
Second, as to those "thousands" who injure themselves, tough beans, it's not the responsibility of the government to protect idiots and the ignorant from their own bad choices.
Third, we already know our own government is weaponizing against all fossil fuels. This is just one more brick to make it harder for the American people to use them.
Fourth, how many of us are going to take those POS caps and replace them with normal ones?

 

[mx842]

Think of the money its gonna cost to buy a new gas can. At least I dont see any language about banning the old ones. Still gonna push people to use something like a 5 gallon Lowes or Homedumpo bucket

Yeah all my gas and diesel cans were burned up in a fire that destroyed my pole barn and I had to go out and get some new ones. You can't find a gas can that you can actually use any more. I went to Lowes and picked up 2, 5 gal safty cans. They were marked at $54 but by the time I got to the register they were $68. You can't even get 5 gals in them and getting it out once it is in is a real task. You end up spilling more than goes into what ever it is you are trying to pour it in to.
I believe there is somewhere on Amazon that you can buy replacement spouts that will replace these stewpid things that these do nothing idiots in washington have forced on us with something that actually works.

 

[Eagle1]

But but its for the children and your safety....................

I don't want forced safety all the time, sometime you have to literally grab the bull by the horns to get him out of the way. (or kick him in the nose)

BTW I don't understand using flammable liquid to start fire, never had trouble getting things to burn.... I get amused at the city folk trying to start a campfire with oak or hickory they cut the day before, or some soaked punky crap they found in a ditch.

 

[MossRoad]

A 5 gallon gas can at Menards is $17.00.

Midwest Can 5-Gallon Gas Can

This 5-gallon gasoline can features a no-spill spout that prevents spills and overfilling.

www.menards.com

 

[mx842]

A 5 gallon gas can at Menards is $17.00.

Midwest Can 5-Gallon Gas Can

This 5-gallon gasoline can features a no-spill spout that prevents spills and overfilling.

www.menards.com

I don't know if this was pointed at me but thanks for the link. The ones I got were metal with the pull lever latch. But for me it's not really the money that bothers me but paying for something that is a pain in the butt to use if you can use it at all. Trying to lift and hold a 5 gal can of gas while you are trying to get what ever it is out of the can and into a fuel tank can be a real pain and normally you end up with as much fuel on you as went into the tank. I had 8 old school plastic tanks that I paid around $20 for ea and they actually worked like a fuel can should.

 

[MTGreen]

Someone using a chainsaw near a bonfire. I know better then to do a second dowsing of gasoline, also that fumes are heavy and i wouldn't use gas anyway. But i don't use diesel, which i don't have, nor oil.

Nothing stopping you from trying to pass a law that mandates minimum education and certification, before one can buy and use a gas can. And be sure to come up with a funding source for said mandate, and you'll need inspectors to go around and make sure we all can show our gas can card. Or if you mean some "expert" should be around each time a new person goes to us a gas can, well that would be great, but not going to happen. There's no such thing as "common sense", it's information that you've been exposed to, not some genetically imprinted smarts.

I would argue that there is some measure of genetically imprinted smarts sometimes called common sense in humans and instinct in animals although I would agree the common sense term is frequently taken too far. Things like fear of water fear of falling and fear of snakes have been shown to be genetically imprinted in infant primates including humans along with suckling reflex, crying, etc. Part of the standard reflex test for infants includes simulated falling. Other genetically imprinted smarts include more complex things like avoidance of contact with excrement, not procreating with close relatives, banding into groups for protection, etc. -which not adhering to have adverse consequences.
I think that common sense in this context refers to not genetically imprinted knowledge but knowledge gained early on in every human's childhood like fire is hot and burns flesh, then later on gasoline lights on fire which then burns flesh.
I can understand this concept not getting through to a child or maybe even early teenage years, but anyone older than that raised in a society that uses gasoline has no excuse whatsoever - that's just plain stupidity

 

[Eagle1]

I'll argue that the imprinted smarts are fading and we tend to bubble wrap kids to point they never encounter the basic pain lessons most of us had in childhood (or as teens). How else do you explain trying to pet a wild buffalo or bear?
I bet most kids never had the pleasure of backing into a hot wood or oil burner at a young age that ensured you would never do that again. Or mess with knives so sharp they can split hair (grew up with a butcher grandpa). Never had farm dog or gander teach them proper protocol, etc.

 

[ManUpNawth]

From:

CPSC Requires Lifesaving Flame Mitigation Devices on Gas Cans and Other Portable Fuel Containers

"Many burn incidents involve liquid fuel used on a backyard fire pit, a campfire, a bonfire or burning trash."

Bruce

Hard to reply anything that the TbyN doesn't block with the note: "appears to be spam".

So, let's just go with - the 'flame mitigation devices' often cause fuel spills while filling.
and
The ventless can requirement causes excessive flexing of the cans as temperatures change causing spills from cracked cans and danger when opening a can that has 'swelled'.

The regulators clearly are not product users.

 

[Steelphoenix]

From:

CPSC Requires Lifesaving Flame Mitigation Devices on Gas Cans and Other Portable Fuel Containers

"Many burn incidents involve liquid fuel used on a backyard fire pit, a campfire, a bonfire or burning trash."

Bruce

It's called BUILD a fire (paper , kindling, progressively larger pieces , etc..), not pour a highly flammable liquid on a smoldering pile, for a reason.

 

[groundcover]

Surprised they didn't just outlaw burning, could have taken care of air pollution at the same time !

 

[mx842]

Surprised they didn't just outlaw burning, could have taken care of air pollution at the same time !

They ain't got that far yet.

 

[Pixguy]

Surprised they didn't just outlaw burning, could have taken care of air pollution at the same time !

Just give 'em time.

 

[Tinhack]

Just give 'em time.

They outlawed "strike anywhere" matches years ago.

In Thailand there's open holes in sidewalks and exposed electrical wires everywhere. If you don't look where you walk and you fall in a hole or die of electrocution, it's your tuff luck for being stupid. It's just natural selection--Like being eaten by a tiger.