grapple vs. wood chipper

/ grapple vs. wood chipper #1  

matoyan

Silver Member
Joined
Jun 9, 2010
Messages
229
Location
Rhode Island
Tractor
kubota b1750, b7100 hst, b2150 hst
Hey all, I need help trying to determine what to buy. A pto wood chipper costs almost as much as a root grapple and I'm really having a hard time deciding what to get. If I get a grapple, i can pile up all of the branches and such and then rent an industrial chipper for a day and chip it away. If I buy the chipper, then I can clear out the wood myself and then I'll have a chipper just sitting there. I don't know which will give me the best bang for the buck. Also, with a grapple, I'll need to install auxillary hydraulics and that's about $800. Any suggestions?
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #2  
Hey all, I need help trying to determine what to buy. A pto wood chipper costs almost as much as a root grapple and I'm really having a hard time deciding what to get. If I get a grapple, i can pile up all of the branches and such and then rent an industrial chipper for a day and chip it away. If I buy the chipper, then I can clear out the wood myself and then I'll have a chipper just sitting there. I don't know which will give me the best bang for the buck. Also, with a grapple, I'll need to install auxillary hydraulics and that's about $800. Any suggestions?

If you are going to be using the JD750 I'd suggest go with the grapple.

BUT - why are you piling the branches?

Do you need chips?

How big are the branches?

Your JD 750 is about the size of my B7610. My B7610 will barely run my chipper. But I've got my M4700 to run it.

If I did not use lots of woodchips (which I do) anyways I would prefer a grapple. But I've a small sawmill that produces 4 or more 10' long thin slabs every time I cut a 10' log and I just don't burn much in Mississippi. But I do need lots of woodchips.
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #3  
This may not help you decide but I bought a root grapple and piled up limbs for about 6 months and like you are thinking I rented a chipper. Just about worked myself to death (and my wife) trying to chip the pile during the short rental time (over the weekend, chipping for about 10 hours each day) and did not get it all done. My wife decided that I needed a PTO chipper such that I can chip small piles as they are generated without her help. So, now I have both and wonder why it took me so long to to get them. I picked up a used professional grade Bearcat 9" chipper in good shape for about 3K which is about 10 rentals. I have used it at about 10 times in the past year for a little over 25 hours of use, so payback may take a while but the convienence is worth the cost in my opinion. Matter of fact, I am looking for a 50-60 horse tractor just to run my chipper so I can use my L45 with the grapple to move limbs to the chipper for even more ease.
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #4  
This may not help you decide but I bought a root grapple and piled up limbs for about 6 months and like you are thinking I rented a chipper. Just about worked myself to death (and my wife) trying to chip the pile during the short rental time (over the weekend, chipping for about 10 hours each day) and did not get it all done. My wife decided that I needed a PTO chipper such that I can chip small piles as they are generated without her help. So, now I have both and wonder why it took me so long to to get them. I picked up a used professional grade Bearcat 9" chipper in good shape for about 3K which is about 10 rentals. I have used it at about 10 times in the past year for a little over 25 hours of use, so payback may take a while but the convienence is worth the cost in my opinion. Matter of fact, I am looking for a 50-60 horse tractor just to run my chipper so I can use my L45 with the grapple to move limbs to the chipper for even more ease.

This is they way to go.. Buy the grapple, do SOOO much work clearing that it makes a chipping a real chore, let wife decide to buy the chipper too :thumbsup:
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #5  
I would need more information, what type of trees are you planning on removing, what are you doing with the land, etc.

I had a JD 650 and a older MM chipper that would in theory go up to 4", and a nearly infinite supply of red alder (very soft wood) to chew through, but the JD would bog down at the 4" stuff, and even slow down when eating through 3" inch wood. 3" of fir or pine was a non-starter. and if you are dealing with any sort of hardwood (oak, maple etc) that chipper is going to be somewhat limited.

however a grapple on your machine may be able to dig up smaller roots and collect branches. if you have room and the patients I would collect this all into a pile, mix in whatever wood chips that you can find and some compost starter. in a year of three (depending on the size of the pile) you will have significant amounts of compost to use.

with my property, I was creating trails, since the JD could not manage to dig out or push over anything bigger than about 3' DBH, anything bigger than that was cut down, cut as flush to the ground as I could manage, and covered with wood chips. since the wood chips filled in all of the holes and made everything smooth and pretty.

that being said, now that I have upgraded to a much bigger tractor, the grapple is going to be my next purchase, and a appropreatly sized chipper sometime down the road.
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper
  • Thread Starter
#6  
I have about an acre that has a pond with trees and brier bushes that have gone crazy. the past two years, the many storms we've had knocked some trees over and it's just gotten out of control. I want to go in there and clear it out so that I can have access to the pond. I've been dragging some of the bigger trees out, splitting them and storing them for firewood. The brier bushes, poison ivy clinging to everything, and saplings really makes things bad. I have this huge pit that I can throw the junk stuff in and burn it and hopefully the neighbors won't be too upset, or just bury it. I thought about a ratchet rake, but a grapple seemed more fun.
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #7  
I have about an acre that has a pond with trees and brier bushes that have gone crazy. the past two years, the many storms we've had knocked some trees over and it's just gotten out of control. I want to go in there and clear it out so that I can have access to the pond. I've been dragging some of the bigger trees out, splitting them and storing them for firewood. The brier bushes, poison ivy clinging to everything, and saplings really makes things bad. I have this huge pit that I can throw the junk stuff in and burn it and hopefully the neighbors won't be too upset, or just bury it. I thought about a ratchet rake, but a grapple seemed more fun.
I bought a Piranha tooth bar for that situation and it worked well, but my soil is NOT rocky.
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #9  
I had the same decision to make and went with a chipper. The reasoning was that with a PTO chipper I didn't actually need to move anything and I had 1 step removal. I'd just cut things as they were and then drive right up to them and feed stuff through. The end result was a clearing with a nice layer of chips in it. It's really nice to be able to just throw stuff through the chipper VS piling and renting one (I used to do that and also seemed to work myself to death).

One big factor will be the size of the brush. If its bigger then a chipper is great, if it's all around 1" or smaller then a chipper isn't really the right tool for it and a grapple or better a mulcher would be the way to go. Vines and poison IVY are also better to be handled by machine than by hand.
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper
  • Thread Starter
#10  
Okay I decided that the grapple would be the best investment for me. Any suggestions on a good one, reasonably priced for a JD 750? I was looking at the 50 inch one from everythingattachments.com.
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #11  
Okay I decided that the grapple would be the best investment for me. Any suggestions on a good one, reasonably priced for a JD 750? I was looking at the 50 inch one from everythingattachments.com.

I purchased the 50" wicked grapple from EA last fall and it did everything it was asked to do with no problems. I was clearing brush, moving logs, stones etc. hooked up to my JDQA in 30 seconds. Perfect fit for my JD 4300.
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper
  • Thread Starter
#12  
Woody65,


How was EA's service? were they helpful? do you find the 50" too small? my bucket is 60" right now and I know 5" on each side isn't that much of a difference. your thoughts?
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #13  
Woody65,

How was EA's service? were they helpful? do you find the 50" too small? my bucket is 60" right now and I know 5" on each side isn't that much of a difference. your thoughts?

EA's service was great. Called them up, gave them the specs on my loader and hydro connections and the unit was shipped within 10 days to my local garden center at no charge.

I find it to be a perfect fit. You can read many threads here on TBN about grapple size. I can grab and lift 20 foot long saplings along with brush piles 15 feet wide. So, I don't think the width of a grapple determines what length object you can grab. I was also concerned in keeping the weight of the grapple down so I would have more lifting capacity for the object I wanted to lift. Less grapple weight equals more lifting capacity.
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #14  
About 2 years or so ago I bought a Wildcat grapple (Great price and still works perfect!) and already had a PTO chipper. To make a LONG story short, I sold the chipper and still have the grapple. The chipper was great but took a LOT of time and effort - it is a workout. I had a Walenstein (very good machine) but the grapple was the way to go. Now I top my tree, come in with the grapple and grab about 90% of the junk up in a few trips (without exiting the tractor mind you), toss it in a big pile and light it on fire. By the days end everything is gone. I find this is MUCH easier than chipping plus I always end up with a few old logs I can throw on the fire and dispose of. Also when we have a storm and a big tree drops over our lane I can often make two cuts and grab 12+ foot section and lift it out of the way and get the road open. The grapple has saved me massive amounts of time and effort. The chipper is nice but feeding it, getting the limbs that are all crooked and twisted in it is a pain, and every once and while that thing would grab a limb and slap up side the head - can't say I miss it at all
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #15  
I have wrestled with the same problem as the OP and at this point I have decided that buying either a chipper or grapple isn't going to make the work easier enough to justify the cost of either implement.

I have a Kubota B7610, so about the biggest chipper I could run is probably something like the Wallenstein BX42, which chips up to 4" and would run me $2700 - $2800. I like the idea of going this route because it means touching the material to be chipped just once. Drive the tractor with chipper attached around my trails and chip whatever needs chipping - as long as it's been trimmed up and is less than 4" in diameter. However, I live less than a mile and a half from a rental place where I can rent a 6" chipper with hydraulic feed for $175 day. The downside of renting is that I can't safely tow a chipper that size around my trails, so I'm left with having to pile up the brush near my driveway where I can easily bring in the rented chipper.

So then I turn to the idea of a grapple, which seems like it would make grabbing and piling stuff up by the driveway easier, but when a big tree falls getting the tractor in position to grab all the debris doesn't seem like a simple task. I've never used a grapple, so maybe I'm wrong about that, but this pic shows the kind of stuff I typically have to deal with.

Tree mess.jpg

Seems like I would still have to cut pieces up, pile them up by hand and then pick them up with the grapple and transport to the big piles by the driveway to be chipped. In this scenario I'm handling the material twice - once to be picked up by the grapple and once to be chipped. Another problem with going the grapple route is that I don't have a quick attach bucket - so I'd likely have to go with either a bolt on grapple or a thumb, which I don't think would be as effective as a true grapple. I would also need to add a third function kit for about $800.

What I've been doing - and what seems to work for no additional cost - is to pile the debris up on a pair of clamp-on pallet forks and tote it out to my big chipping piles by the driveway. I'm handling the material twice, which isn't ideal, but it's only costing $175 once or twice a year to rent a big chipper. It would be a lot more fun if a new implement would make the job easier enough to justify the cost, but I just don't see it. I would love to be convinced otherwise and I think my wife would be willing to listen too. We were both exhausted after cleaning up the mess in the picture. :)
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #16  
About 2 years or so ago I bought a Wildcat grapple (Great price and still works perfect!) and already had a PTO chipper. To make a LONG story short, I sold the chipper and still have the grapple. The chipper was great but took a LOT of time and effort - it is a workout. I had a Walenstein (very good machine) but the grapple was the way to go. Now I top my tree, come in with the grapple and grab about 90% of the junk up in a few trips (without exiting the tractor mind you), toss it in a big pile and light it on fire. By the days end everything is gone. I find this is MUCH easier than chipping plus I always end up with a few old logs I can throw on the fire and dispose of. Also when we have a storm and a big tree drops over our lane I can often make two cuts and grab 12+ foot section and lift it out of the way and get the road open. The grapple has saved me massive amounts of time and effort. The chipper is nice but feeding it, getting the limbs that are all crooked and twisted in it is a pain, and every once and while that thing would grab a limb and slap up side the head - can't say I miss it at all

I was hoping that I wasn't the only one who burns a brush-pile.

I do mine once a year (winter), and it's typically the size of a 2-car garage. This is just maintaining growth and debris from my 5a.

Once my new tractor arrives, a grapple will be the first purchase to accompany it.
 
/ grapple vs. wood chipper #20  
I've never used a grapple, so maybe I'm wrong about that, but this pic shows the kind of stuff I typically have to deal with.

View attachment 360097

KapnFriday - Your woods look pretty much like mine except I have thicker brush on the ground. I'm about 98% positive that I'm going with a root grapple to clean mine out. But I have a quick-attach bucket on my tractor so I can swap back and forth a little easier. And, if I can work out a good price on it, I'll probably buy my neighbor's 3PH chipper.

Looking at your picture - Is that a fallen Ash tree on the right? If so, has the Emerald Ash Borer made it to NC? If that is an Ash and you EAB is in your area you'd better plan on either spending a lot of money trying to save the trees or plan on handling a lot more Ash trees. Once the EAB infests a tree, it's a matter of 2 or 3 years before the tree is dead.

Looks like you've got a nice place there!! Enjoy!
 
 

Marketplace Items

429905 (A61165)
429905 (A61165)
Cat CB24B (A60462)
Cat CB24B (A60462)
Freightliner Columbia (A63118)
Freightliner...
2022 John Deere X730 Lawn Mower (A63116)
2022 John Deere...
203201 (A60429)
203201 (A60429)
UNUSED KJ 23'X22' DBL GARAGE METAL SHED (A62131)
UNUSED KJ 23'X22'...
 
Top