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dpauly

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Branson 3120R
Did a compression test yesterday on my 2011 Branson 3120R with the A1700 engine. LOWEST reading (#1 Cyl) was 465 psi! Thanks to this forum I learned the factory numbers were like 497 psi so WOW! Engine has approx. 1700 hours and is used not daily but regularly to brush hog, load round bales, tow a DR fence trimmer, pull my wife and her zero turn out of the ditch . . . Was expecting much worse given it's 14 years old.
 
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If it’s taken care of 1700 hours isn’t really that much. Sounds like it’s got another 1700 in it.
 
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I visually judge compression and the service life of pistons, valves and ring sets by the amount of blowby and my one Kubota at over 5500 hours has very minimal blowby. Blowby is always an excellent indicator of internal wear, the more blowby present indicates how much combustion gases are getting by the rings and valve guides. That and starting ease. Low compression will always means hard warm starting. Cold starting with glo plugs, not so much because the glo plugs 'trick' the diesel into igniting. You have to have sufficent compression to ignite the diesel fuel in the cylinders for the engine to start.
 
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I visually judge compression and the service life of pistons, valves and ring sets by the amount of blowby and my one Kubota at over 5500 hours has very minimal blowby. Blowby is always an excellent indicator of internal wear, the more blowby present indicates how much combustion gases are getting by the rings and valve guides. That and starting ease. Low compression will always means hard warm starting. Cold starting with glo plugs, not so much because the glo plugs 'trick' the diesel into igniting. You have to have sufficent compression to ignite the diesel fuel in the cylinders for the engine to start.
Thanks 5030, but wouldn't "blowby" be more an audible than a "visual" detection and are you saying excessive blowby can be present despite very good compression numbers? I agree 1700 hours are low on a diesel engine (especially for a 14 year old one) but my interest in the compression test stems from the fact the original Injector Pump had to be replaced by the dealer within a year of purchase and in the past year or two I can no longer get the engine to reach the higher RPM's necessary to efficiently run a brush hog and have even experienced a time or two of the engine "running away" which I'm attributing to a now failing Inj Pump (which I'm in the process of replacing): all of which to say I was very concerned about the possibility of the rings having been compromised at least a little if any of the above resulted in much "trash" entering the cylinders. Btw, my engine always starts easily regardless the ambient temps. Appreciate your expertise & input, 5030. I'm not highly experienced in the diesel world, but have done my share of wrenching on cars and military jets over the past 50 years. Thanks again.
 
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Blowby is very visual...
 
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Blowby is very visual...
CloverKnollFarms: Would you mind being more specific? Exactly where and how does it show and if a compression test (albeit on a Harbor Freight but brand new tool) shows compression at more than satisfactory values and no leak down, the oil & coolant show no signs of contamination from other fluids, etc., then what should I be looking for? Thanks.
 
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CloverKnollFarms: Would you mind being more specific? Exactly where and how does it show and if a compression test (albeit on a Harbor Freight but brand new tool) shows compression at more than satisfactory values and no leak down, the oil & coolant show no signs of contamination from other fluids, etc., then what should I be looking for? Thanks.

You'd literally see smoke/oil vapor from the crankcase breather.

I'm sure your tractor is in superb condition... But I run a lot of 1970s large ag tractors, and you see real blowby 😂. We are pushing 12,000-15,000 hours and no overhauls
 
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You'd literally see smoke/oil vapor from the crankcase breather.

I'm sure your tractor is in superb condition... But I run a lot of 1970s large ag tractors, and you see real blowby 😂
OK, thanks. (Wish it were in "superb" condition.)
 
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Our little tractors are awesome, my Branson included. But Im always in awe of our 70's and 80's Ag tractors and the work they have done and what abuse they can take. My Kukje is a good motor, but not a DT436 turbo. My 48hp Branson is like a lawnmower 😂
 

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