JDgreen227
Super Member
My 420 FEL appears the same as your does but I know mine was brand new when delivered to me.
Green Bucket Anxiety...
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yellowsocks93
Veteran Member
Yeah, they painted the older loaders as one complete part hoses and all. There appears to be no primer under the paint on mine when I removed the 4 metal hyd. lines from one arm to the other. It's down to bare metal. The paint is coming off my hydraulic hoses and peels right off by hand. All the new loaders I see have been painted prior to putting the hydraulic lines on. It makes the setup look a little cleaner like the Kubota loaders.
bigpete
Veteran Member
My 210 loader came with an excellent paint job. There were no paint flaws even around the weld beads, cut-outs, and inside the channels. The paint job on the front and inside of the bucket lasted until the end of the first photo shoot.
Yellowsocks wrote:
<<<It's down to bare metal. It makes the
setup look a little cleaner like the Kubota loaders>>>>.
True, but my concern would be rust. I know I started this as
a joke about a bucket too nice to use, but I rarely look twice
as rust in/on a bucket as the next time I use it, the rust
is gone. (I like to add iron oxide to my soil...)
It's hard enough to keep the rest of the tractor looking
nice without some of it coming unpainted from the get-go.
And no, I don't wax my loader arms, but I don't like looking
at rust on them either.
It's normal to see assemblies containing multiple steel or
cast parts bolted together first and then painted together.
I think it is unusual to paint a loader this way. I've only
seen this at the used equipment auction where everything
gets the 30 minute steam clean and 10 minute paint job.
These tractors are too expensive to start out with a spray
everything paint job. The welding on the loader looks like
someone was very meticulous in the finish product.
The loaders I believe are made in the USA or Canada. I'll
be the workers didn't decide to paint them like that.
Usually that type of decision comes from a bean counter or
"time efficiency expert" or "systems analyst."
Analyzing your procedures with the intent of increasing pro
ductivity is great, but if you aren't looking at the end
product what's the point. Unfortunately that is the situation many times.
Looking at big companies it is really a mind twister to
make sense of their actions. They do a quicky paint job on
a visible item, yet start putting on that 23% bigger hydraulic
pump with no mention off it in their advertising!
del
<<<It's down to bare metal. It makes the
setup look a little cleaner like the Kubota loaders>>>>.
True, but my concern would be rust. I know I started this as
a joke about a bucket too nice to use, but I rarely look twice
as rust in/on a bucket as the next time I use it, the rust
is gone. (I like to add iron oxide to my soil...)
It's hard enough to keep the rest of the tractor looking
nice without some of it coming unpainted from the get-go.
And no, I don't wax my loader arms, but I don't like looking
at rust on them either.
It's normal to see assemblies containing multiple steel or
cast parts bolted together first and then painted together.
I think it is unusual to paint a loader this way. I've only
seen this at the used equipment auction where everything
gets the 30 minute steam clean and 10 minute paint job.
These tractors are too expensive to start out with a spray
everything paint job. The welding on the loader looks like
someone was very meticulous in the finish product.
The loaders I believe are made in the USA or Canada. I'll
be the workers didn't decide to paint them like that.
Usually that type of decision comes from a bean counter or
"time efficiency expert" or "systems analyst."
Analyzing your procedures with the intent of increasing pro
ductivity is great, but if you aren't looking at the end
product what's the point. Unfortunately that is the situation many times.
Looking at big companies it is really a mind twister to
make sense of their actions. They do a quicky paint job on
a visible item, yet start putting on that 23% bigger hydraulic
pump with no mention off it in their advertising!
del
yellowsocks93
Veteran Member
I wish my hoses and that were not painted since now I have to do touch up on a loader that has about and hour or two of use on it(I don't use my loader that much). I can do a good job with spray paint but I feel JD as a whole does a much worse job painting than they used to. Same with people at my dealership. Oh, the loaders are designed and built in Canada.
KevPH
New member
Hi, Anybody ever use a spray-on bed liner inside your loader bucket? Another option could be the bolt-in style of bed liner used by gravel/sand dump box haulers. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
JDgreen227
Super Member
My last 3 pickups were fitted with a plastic bed liner when they were new and I kind of wished I could get a liner for my loader bucket. Have no experience with the spray in bed liners, those could be used for a bucket interior but I don't know how durable the material is.
bigpete
Veteran Member
An interesting thought on the spray-in bedliner. I have no experience with them either but have been told that the problem with spray-ins is that, if the material is breached, moisture and dirt can get between the steel and the liner and begin to break down the metal and the rest of the bond with the liner.
I just can't bring myself to be concerned wih loosing paint on the working surfaces of implements and tools. The hood and fenders...well, that's a different story. Even then, it's a tractor, not a car. Having grown up working on ag farms and later on state and private tree farms, we always thought a tool that still had its paint on it afer a month was a waste of money. Everthing else from a spade to dozer blade that would be exposed to the elements got cleaned and wiped wih an oily rag through the season, then washed and quickly coated with cheap paint when it was put up for the year. That paint rarely lasted a month after the next season started.
At my level of use with my loader, I can't imagine ever having a bucket deteriorate from rust due to my non-commercial use. I also store it in a shed. As was suggested, buy a can of paint every fall; wash it, wire brush it if its bad, then spray a quick coat on the bare metal.
I just can't bring myself to be concerned wih loosing paint on the working surfaces of implements and tools. The hood and fenders...well, that's a different story. Even then, it's a tractor, not a car. Having grown up working on ag farms and later on state and private tree farms, we always thought a tool that still had its paint on it afer a month was a waste of money. Everthing else from a spade to dozer blade that would be exposed to the elements got cleaned and wiped wih an oily rag through the season, then washed and quickly coated with cheap paint when it was put up for the year. That paint rarely lasted a month after the next season started.
At my level of use with my loader, I can't imagine ever having a bucket deteriorate from rust due to my non-commercial use. I also store it in a shed. As was suggested, buy a can of paint every fall; wash it, wire brush it if its bad, then spray a quick coat on the bare metal.
Old_Hickory
Platinum Member
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( wished I could get a liner for my loader bucket )</font>
Now come on,thats a little over the top.That would be about as practical as painting a shovel. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Now come on,thats a little over the top.That would be about as practical as painting a shovel. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
