Grinding Iced Drive

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#11  
Dutch,

Good idea but I've used up all my woodstove ashes already. I really need to get a few 50 gal. drums of sand/salt mix as I use up the ashes near the parking area, leaving 500 ft. + in need of treatment. Also, this time of year, especially with days on end of overcast and low sun angle, blackbody doesn't always do much. Every little bit helps though and by Saturday night or Sunday, we should be back to < 32 deg.'s...I hope.
 
   / Grinding Iced Drive #12  
Looks like we are all pretty much in the same boat. I got 800+' that looks just like yours. I bought 8 ton of salted sand last fall and today I used about 1/8 yard of it.
 
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#13  
Herb,

Got me thinking...I wonder if a bar could be clamped tight enough on my RB, with case hardened or stainless bolts every few inches, at slight rear angle and alternating directions (slight angles left and right)...? Ofcourse, with that, some gauge wheels would come in handy to keep from digging deeper than desired. Sill have no welder but a solid peice of angle iron (steel preferred but $'s), a handfull of bolts and nuts, and a few heavy duty clamps might do for the few times per winter it gets real icy. At least I have a decent drill and bits. Hmmm
 
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#14  
DaTeacha,

Nope, no box blade either but, one is definitely on my list of wants. I hope to have one by summer as I need to level out a couple of areas. One for equpment shed and one to begin on a garage/workshop/...
 
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#15  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue">I bought 8 ton of salted sand last fall and today I used about 1/8 yard of it.
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Can I ask what decent salted sand goes for, per ton (or yard...) and did you get it delieverd or have to pick it up? W/O a truck, I'd have to get it delievered. Checking around and it seems, especially right now, prices are pretty high.
 
   / Grinding Iced Drive #16  
A landscape rake would work well- alot better than a new tranny! I agree that getting anything dark on the ice would cut it quickly.
 
   / Grinding Iced Drive #17  
Glad to see I'm not the only one who deals with this! I've tried most of the suggestions here. Timing is everything--anticipating whether or not what you do today will freeze tonight or just melt off.

I've had good luck with the landscape rake. I've even thrown the chains on the truck and gone up and down the driveway several times. Earlier this year (before our early spring) I put the chains on the tractor and left 'em on. Not as much for tractor traction, but to be constantly working and "texturing" the base layer-turned-icerink. With enough sun, I'm finding that the sunflower seeds in the shells (birdseed) will actually cause sufficient melting to break up the surface of the ice. That does the trick.

Good luck!
 
   / Grinding Iced Drive #18  
I don't have a toothbar either, but I do have a home made cross between a toothbar and manure forks that works wonders. I have a light tractor (B7100), but have found that it has enough weight to chew up ice if I do things right.

I welded 4 pieces of 2" angle about 18" long to a 5th piece about 3' long. I have a 48" bucket on my little loader. The main piece looks like a letter E with 4 bars instead of 3. I took another 3' long piece and clamped it to the first one and drilled through them both. Then I clamped the E to the bucket with the teeth sticking out about 10" or so from the cutting edge of the bucket. I drilled the bucket for 3 bolts through the holes in the 3' long piece and placed the second one beneath it, using the second piece to reinforce the bucket. I also drilled through the 4 teeth and cutting edge, bolting there also. The leading edge of the 4 teeth was cut at about 30 degrees above the horizontal. This rig works great for picking up "used hay", breaking up ice, getting under logs to lift them, hauling lumber, etc. etc. It basically extends the bottom of the bucket without adding sides or much weight. The teeth also make very handy places to hang or hook chains from the bucket.

I had the steel laying around, but the thing only took about an hour and half, maybe two hours to make and I'm far from a metal working expert. I thought it was well worth the time and effort.

I can use it on ice either forwards or backwards, but I have found the most effective way is to dump the bucket completely so it actually points slightly backwards, then lower it and take some of the weight of the tractor, nearly lifting the front wheels. Then I back down the drive, steering with the brakes when the wheels don't have enough traction.

Alternately, I can lower the teeth at a slight angle, again putting tractor weight on them, and slowly drive forward, gouging grooves and chunks out of the ice. I do all this in low range, usually first or second gear. I intentionally go into the gravel beneath the ice, mixing the gravel with the ice chunks. I have to make about 3 or 4 passes with my little tractor to chew it all up, then I can run over it with the back blade a couple of times, mixing the gravel and ice chunks into a pretty rough but level surface that no has been unable to climb yet. If it starts to get smooth, I just hit it again before it gets glazed and it doesn't take as much work.

My driveway goes up about 25 or 30 feet while curving through woods for several hundred feet, then gets steeper and goes up to the barn. I'm not sure about the heights and distance involved, but I am sure I can get up and down in the cars and 2wd pickup all winter.
 
   / Grinding Iced Drive #19  
I used to keep a small pile of driveway mix,, the smallest
crushed stone.. that sprinkled on the ice gives traction,
and melts down into to break up the ice over time. but,
not always available this time of year...

snow coming this weekend??
maybe..

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   / Grinding Iced Drive #20  
8 ton of salted sand delivered was 140 bucks. He had to haul it about 10 mile. To me its worth every dime. It should last me about 3 years.
 

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