Growing Old With Dignity

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   / Growing Old With Dignity #151  
Wow!, I guess. I have never been shot. My dad was shot in the foot once with a .22 and he was a big tough guy. He said it was the worse pain he had ever experienced. Said it was like a red hot sledgehammer hit his foot.

She completely missed once, grazed herself once, then figured it out. She was not familiar with guns at all.
 
   / Growing Old With Dignity #152  
I think some of it depends on the mental state late in life. My dad didn’t show tendencies towards suicide or despair. In regular conversation, he seemed perfectly normal, but his short-term memory was shot.

He could read the newspaper for hours, with no recollection of what he just read. (I accidentally learned that through casual conversation.) And yet, he *wanted* to read the paper. His face would really brighten up when I handed it to him.

He seemed to just live in the moment and not dwell on what his life had become.
 
   / Growing Old With Dignity #153  
A younger man (22+-) I'd known since he was a kid shot himself, then (allegedly) begged his GF not to call an ambulance as he slowly bled to death over the course of a half hour or more. His parents later tried to get a law passed making it mandatory to call for help in those circumstances.
 
   / Growing Old With Dignity #154  
A younger man (22+-) I'd known since he was a kid shot himself, then (allegedly) begged his GF not to call an ambulance as he slowly bled to death over the course of a half hour or more. His parents later tried to get a law passed making it mandatory to call for help in those circumstances.

Not sure how to feel about that. What a dick for shooting himself with his GF present. Now she has to live with that. :(
 
   / Growing Old With Dignity #155  
Interesting topic. Some of us will be facing these exact circumstances and I certainly welcome the debate.
 
   / Growing Old With Dignity #156  
Interesting topic. Some of us will be facing these exact circumstances and I certainly welcome the debate.

As medical technology advances more of us will live beyond "good" days. :(
 
   / Growing Old With Dignity #157  
As medical technology advances more of us will live beyond "good" days. :(
That's why I have a "Living Will". It doesn't cover all of the contingencies, but at least there is no question that I don't want a stinking machine keeping me breathing. (Remember Karen Quinlan?)
 
   / Growing Old With Dignity #158  
This is important. My mother in law contracted an intestinal infection in post-hospital care. The doctors wanted to do surgery that would remove some of her intestines. She had made her wishes clear, no extraordinary measures to be taken.
 
   / Growing Old With Dignity #159  
If a loved one decided that their life was no longer worth living, I could respect that. I would find it sad if they took their life to avoid being a burden or spending their money.

Caring for elders is not easy, but I feel it is part of life. God forbid, you could even say I changed my father’s diaper, because he sometimes lost bladder control overnight. It was about as traumatic as changing a pair of underwear. Instead of going into the laundry, they go in the trash.
 
   / Growing Old With Dignity #160  
My point exactly.

You reckon taxpayers picked up the balance?

No unless it was a county facility which are few around here.

There is the bill rate, in network rate, contract rate, cash pay rate, charitable rate/write off...

Several Not for Profit Hospitals were under scrutiny for having huge cash reserves and not much on the charitable side...

Also, the cash rate can be half or less than the billed rate...

Think about it... why is a procedure billed at 40k in network and 100k out of network?

SF General just revamped it's entire billing for network and out of network and Sacramento is debating new rules on this...
 
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