GST vs HST

ljh2 · Feb 27, 2004

Gary,

Having operated a friend's 3010-GST, I would add that the GST is a little different than a Syncro-Shuttle, in that it while it DOES have a Syncro-Shuttle, it has a no-clutch inline power-shift for gear selection too. It was a nice step up from a clutch-and-shift manual while costing less than HST. I'm not going to get into the great HST -vs- Gear debate, because they both have their place. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

frank_f15 · Feb 27, 2004

( And most here have never even driven a GST and don't know what you can do with it. )

Guess i fall in that catagory, have never operated a gst, only thing i can say is compared to my old clutch, shift, forward, clutch shift backward etc. HST is a godsend for these old arms and legs.

sbrem · Feb 27, 2004

I have a 3130 and I did not get the GST or the HST. I got the DT which is the standard syncro shuttle. I am very happy with it. For myself I couldn't see paying the extra for the GST or HST. I would rather use that extra money to buy attachments. But since you are unsure what you want, you should try out all 3, mabye even a few times and get whichever feels more comfortable for you to use.

Stephen

art · Feb 27, 2004

The pto is where the hydro would be at the most advantage as the infinite speeds mean no shifting for varing quanities of load.

texbaylea · Feb 27, 2004

I appreciate everyone's comments. The information I got today is that there are big price incresases coming due to rising steel and oil prices. There has already been a 5-9% increase in loader prices. Depending in the trade-in value of my old tractors, 20 & 30 years old, I will probably get an L3130 with the 723 FEL and R4 tires with 1 extra remote valve. I will probably get a HTL soon. I have lived a few more than three score and ten and need all the help I can get.

_RaT_ · Feb 27, 2004

Art, you bring up an excellent point. While it is true that HST will rob a little HP, as you mention, it works out exceptionally well for PTO implements like mowers where the ability to back off on speed thus reducing the engine load both because of travel speed as well as load to the PTO device works hand in hand. When I am going uphill and encounter a wet thick patch of grass to mow, I don't think about clutching like I do with my manual International or shifting to a lower range on my HST, I just back off on the HST pedal and govern it based on the engine RPM which is discerned purely by sound level. It is second nature. While GST is an entirely different transmission then power reverser or shuttleshift, it nonetheless works very well. My comment would simply be that all work very well. The power reverser on JD's works very well and Kubotas simple DT works very well. To sum it up, there really is no wrong choice. Rat...

Jamesbo · Feb 29, 2004

Greetings everyone.
I will have to agree SBREM, I saved a few bucks on my 3430 with the DT tranny and I love this excellent shuttleshift. I did that also to go towards the 735 FEL and a SB720 Box. I will say it's an individuals choice and the money don't matter if it's what one can afford and believes he'll be happy with.
"I luvvvvv this tractor" come as you are. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Jamesbo

Jibber · Feb 29, 2004

I have the L3130HST, soon to celebrate it's first birthday in my possession.

I had never operated an HST before getting the tractor. It's wonderful and easy to operate. But, the one thing that you need to remind yourself is that pedal is a shifter, not an accelerator. In other words, if you're going uphill or driving into a pile with the loader and the engine starts bogging down, you don't push down on the pedal, you ease up.. to downshift!

Once you get the hang of that you'll wonder why you ever considered the GST.

PineRidge · Feb 29, 2004

I had never operated an HST before getting the tractor. It's wonderful and easy to operate. But, the one thing that you need to remind yourself is that pedal is a shifter, not an accelerator. In other words, if you're going uphill or driving into a pile with the loader and the engine starts bogging down, you don't push down on the pedal, you ease up.. to downshift!


Jibber I couldn't agree with you more. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif The first time that I pushed into a pile with the FEL, just as the RPMs dropped my inclination was to push harder on the forward HST pedal. Well, it took just a couple of times whacking away at that pile before I realized that less pedal is much better than more. The learning curve for using a HST can be very quick once you understand the basics of the beast. I for one wouldn't be without mine.