I remember going to my first harbor freight when I lived in California over 20 yrs ago. I think it was located around simi valley? I remember thinking these tools suck, and went to Sears, fortunately as time went on more more of there stuff ended up being developed into pretty decent and durable tools at a fair price point. Anyways I enjoy reading others, and sharing my own experience with some of there good tools on this thread. I will drift some and occasionally express distaste for a few HF contraptions.