Thank you for all the information, I will try to get to some troubleshooting saturday. It is hot in maryland and not even letting up at night. With emily using the tractor, I don't think she will put up with it long, usualy better to fix it than have her tell me a thousand times how it was before. I love to watch her start it up hookup an implement and go mow, dig, or put up fence by herself, not bad for a cpa. I will keep you up to date. It is a 4wd model. I still wouldn't give it up for anything. We paid just under 10,000 for it year and half ago with 500 hrs R1's and a FEL. Thanks again for all the good information. Owen.