Has haggling died?

[LittleBill21]

in the past couple years, im noticing a trend with used stuff, where the seller refuses to budge even a dollar, I bought a van over 21k used, that the sales guy even said they couldn't move for 2 years, yet only after showing up and walking out door, got 200 dollars off.

I am now actively trying to buy a tractor. this is now the 3rd tractor where the seller, doesn't even counter, its simply a NO. 14,250 on a 15k tractor was my offer.

I don't know if this is a new thing, but i have always in the past at least saw some attempt at haggling. Am i a relic?

 

[ZTMAN]

If the asking price is reasonable, sellers do not need to haggle. If you don't buy it , someone else will. Does not hurt to haggle to try to reduce the price a little, everyone likes a bargain. But I would not get offended get offended and walk away if the asking price is reasonable if I needed the machine.

 

[LittleBill21]

not offended just trying to understand if this is now the new normal. i always added buffer when i sold stuff because people would try to cut it down a bit and i would end up where i wanted to anyway.

 

[Peter 315]

No dice on the tractor I always haggle on cars, truck, tractors..... Maybe he owes more on it. I tried to buy a motorcycle last year down the rode from me I made a offer and he said no my wife told me yesterday the bike is out front again for sale ..........

 

[ZTMAN]

What tractor are you looking Little Bill, model, hours , etc...


Edit:

Was looking at other threads, and found came across yours regarding an EMax.
Haggling is in order based on the asking price of that machine.

 

[Maxify55]

Negotiations is never haggling.
If I offer more for your widget than the first guy, is that haggling?
That's just life in the retail marketplace.

 

[LittleBill21]

What tractor are you looking Little Bill, model, hours , etc...


Edit:

Was looking at other threads, and found came across yours regarding an EMax.
Haggling is in order based on the asking price of that machine.

my budget was initially 12k, learned that wasn't going to cut it over all. i kind of have a hard limit of 15k with transportation cost. trying to stay newer then 14, wanted a warranty, not sure i care anymore. was initially looking at the emax22, now learning i can potentially get into a max24 or max26 for roughly the same money. and i want TLB and a mower if i can get it.

initially wanted r4 tires, now learning turf (which are rarer) may be better in my situation. i plan more backhoe and mowing then loader work.

 

[RalphVa]

My wife still does it.

Ralph

 

[LittleBill21]

Negotiations is never haggling.
If I offer more for your widget than the first guy, is that haggling?
That's just life in the retail marketplace.

it just seems NO one is even remotely interested in doing it. that being said the 2 prior tractors i bidded on it, did sell, so maybe their number are good. but when i can get a new emax22 tlb for 18,675 out the door. im struggling with not buying new. but like i said i want to be at 15.

 

[skipperbrown]

I don't enjoy haggling when I sell something and I don't like lowball offers (I don't respond). I set what I think is a reasonable price and if no one buys it in a week or two, I lower the price by 5 or 10%. I keep doing this until it sells.

 

[Birdhunter1]

Whenever I put something up for sale I put it at a reasonable price to move it, I'm usually wanting to sell something to replace it.

When I buy something I'm of the mindset I don't argue price too much as I know a dealer has to make a profit and I want them to be in business next year or 10 when I have to come back for parts or service. A guy I buy hay from told me I'm the only one who ever told him he was selling good hay too cheap, I told him you make good hay and because you can do it at a profit I don't have to do it as a necessity.

On a rare occasion I will buy something cheap, fix it and resell it, I typically pad my asking price just so I can come down. When buying used I typically don't go look at something that the asking price isn't something I would not want to spend.

 

[dnw64]

Haggling (more politically correct term: negotiating a mutually acceptable price) will never go away.

Maybe you don't have the skill set, or maybe the other guy doesn't.

But the bottom line is: don't pay more than what you think something is worth.

If the price is already below what you think it's worth, sure - give it a try, but if they say "Price is firm" and it's at or below what your assessment is, just pay it!

 

[LouNY]

I always try to better the price when I'm buying doesn't matter to much what it is.
Even in the big box stores it's possible, lower price, or something else thrown in.

 

[PsRumors]

The art of haggling is about lost. I do quite a bit of business on FB marketplace. Quite often, 75% + of the time the very first message is "bottom dollar?". Depending on my mood, I usually respond with "what's your top dollar", other times I will type some sort of response like "I am already priced rather aggressive blah blah blah".

I had a JD 4700 Loader / Backhoe in really nice shape, I offered at $25k firm. The first person to message me stated "it's a 20 year old tractor, are you really firm, I'll give you 9"

 

[kthompson]

Currently have a tractor for sale at a very fair price. Has been on a lot for about 5 weeks. Sure would like to sell it and have flexed more than thought I would for one person who was sure he was buying it that day...yep he totally fell through. Used car salesperson. Have I considered lowering the sale price, yes but have not for know many people will look at a car or tractor more than once before they buy. I don't mind being offered a low ball price. I will counter with price higher than I have it for sale which shocks them.

 

[tmcj]

The last haggling conversation I had the guy wanted me to drop $50 for the sake of his gas and expenses to drive two hours to pick it up. I said if he drove two hours one way he must want it pretty bad, and how does that make it of any less value to me for selling it. I already have it priced to move it. Apparently you want it more than I need to sell it. He took it home at my price.

 

[hslogger]

I hate it. When I sell something I put a price on it that I think is fair. Sometimes a buyer will ask if it is firm on the phone. I say yes. If they come in person and look it over and want a break on it, I say I think it is worth my price. Most often they buy it, or the second looker does.

When buying I take the position that the seller thinks it is worth his or her price. I hope it is a quality item and I pay what they want for it.It is very rare that I have been disappointed in those purchases, but I have been burned a couple times over my lifetime. I try to be square and I don't have to look over my shoulder.

 

[Wagtail]

Haggling is an art and one done out of respect.
A person who haggles needs to respect the seller, yet needs to know that they can walk away from the 'deal'.
The seller needs to know that the buyer is haggling out of respect.
Anything else is not a 'deal'.

 

[LD1]

I still haggle, and people haggle with me over things Im selling.

The new trend I am seeing, and not liking....

IS people haggling over services a business offers. People call me for a quote on a job. Mowing, digging, removing a tree, installing utilities or drainage, etc.

I give them a quote.....usually thats it. I'll either get the job or they will go with someone else. But its surprising the number of people that will say...." Well can you do it for $xx.xx" Like IF I quote a job for $300....I get..."can you do it for two"?

Nope!. Call someone else if my price is too high...:confused2:

 

[Hay Dude]

I don't enjoy haggling when I sell something and I don't like lowball offers (I don't respond). I set what I think is a reasonable price and if no one buys it in a week or two, I lower the price by 5 or 10%. I keep doing this until it sells.

Thats pretty much what I do.

What I find fascinating is when I have something for sale and a potential buyer calls me and says “ I have to travel 5 hours to buy your tractor, so I need you to take $1,000 off the price “ :laughing:

Like Im supposed to compensate some clown for travel time and expense because he wants to shop for a tractor 5 hours from his home? :confused2:

I expect haggling, but comp for travel? :laughing: