haven't a clue need help

[KWentling]

How does KWENTLING your loader work on the low flow pressure?? Is it a reasonable option to run the loader off of the tractor's excisting pump and everything else off a auxillary ?[/QUOTE]

Loader works just fine off the remotes. I can lift about 1800 lbs. at the bucket lip and speed is acceptable. The bucket curl is kind of weak but that is due to the loader design and the cylinders probably need to be resealed. I used it for big round and big square bales. The squares are about 1400 lbs. Tractor is waiting for it's new owner to come up with the cash as I have upgraded to a Case 1070 and Westendorf loader.
I would look at a crank driven pump if at all possible over trying to run a long PTO shaft adapter. A PTO drive shaft can exert a lot of side forces if pulling something like a pull type bush hog. Could also cause severe angles (shorter shaft) on mounted implements.
Yesterdays Tractors is a good place to ask questions about those older tractors. If yours is an Eagle Hitch they can tell you how they are supposed to operate. I believe the hydraulic valving is different on those as well.

Kim

 

[hounder]

does any one have any info on a crank driven pump or where to locate one or info on it?
I really appreciate the help I have spent days looking at mostly the wrong information and it gets old trying to figure something out with out good information. thanks again!!
are there any pitfalls i should be aware of to began with?
the loader is 5'6" wide and the back hoe attachment is deffinetly a bigger attachment I don't know what the reach is but the depth will be affected by the heigth of the tractor not much but some and from looking at it, it will probably be just as easy to attach it at operator deck height instead of below as I believe it was designed. one fault is there are no stabilizer arms on the hoe and it will have to have them.
what would the best place to attach the hydraulics. before the backhoe control valves or after?

If anyone would be willing to help walk me through this project that would be great!

 

[Willl]

We need pics of your setup,,,,

 

[Willl]

no stabilizer arms on the hoe

Is it home built ?

 

[mmurphy]

I do not think 1500 psi is the end of the backhoe dream here. A little low but it all depends what you are using it for. Those small cadplan style backhoes would not compare with, if properly running hydraulic unit that you have already.

 

[Willl]

1500 psi

I'm trying to keep up,,,,where did you get 1500 psi ?

 

[MarkV]

I'm trying to keep up,,,,where did you get 1500 psi ?

Will, tractor data list the tractor hydraulics as having 1550 PSI with 13.6 GPM flow.

MarkV

 

[KWentling]

Will, tractor data list the tractor hydraulics as having 1550 PSI with 13.6 GPM flow.

MarkV

That 13.6 GPM is total flow. Only half of that is available at one set of remotes. I'd have to look to see if the total flow could be intercepted before the valve bank. I'm pretty sure there are valving differences between my 830 and his though. I have no idea what his backhoe consists of, but if it is of a size that would I would envision to fit that tractor, 6 GPM would make for a very slow hoe. Thats about the flow my BX runs on. The pressure might be enough.

We need pictures so we know what he has.

Kim

 

[KWentling]

does any one have any info on a crank driven pump or where to locate one or info on it?

This is going to be a homemade setup. Don't think you will find a direct fit. I'm not even sure there is room to do this, but I'll try to get over to take a look at my 830. I'll also look to see if the pump output could be redirected to a power beyond valve and then back to the tractors valve bank. That would be the easiest solution if it's an option. We really need pictures of the back of the tractor and the hoe to know what you have.

I get most of my hydraulic components from Surplus Center.

Kim

 

[mmurphy]

If a hoe is added would he not want to change valving?



16.5 total flow, 13.6 valve flow, with 1 or 2 valves. Being it is open system I guess most of that goes to valve with possibly a priority valve for power steering if it came with it.