Hay baling

   / Hay baling #11  
I like this last post. Sums me up too. Of course I upgraded to some serious power over the years but I upgraded to some serious hay implements too.

Tha little tractor will run an older NH 66, a 335 JD or a 14T just fine. Don't plan on pulling a wagon, just bale on the ground and pick 'em up later.

The older small bailers are just fine for a small holding. I just sold a 66 that bailed like a top that would probably run with a Vee belt and a briggs and stratton. I sold it to an older couple with 5 acres and a horse that were tired of getting gouged by greedy hay brokers. They paid 500 for it. I felt good about them buying it. It filled a need for them and I knew it was going to a good home.

The older bailers are set for sisal and have double twine discs. They will run 170 poly all day. Use poly, Forget sisal. I've posted on many threads (on here) concerning older bailers and new ones. I count ties instead of sheep and I know knotters inside and out.

You want a sickle mower, not a disc. You don't have the power for a disc, especially a discbine. A sidemount sickle mower takes very little power. It also takes some skill to run effectively but it's a mastered skill. Once you master the technique, you'll be mowing as fast as a disc mower can. The Amish only run sickle bar mowers, pulled by horses with a forecart. It takes literally a few 'horsepower' to run one.

You don't have the tractor weight for any mower conditioner. They are heavy, you aren't. A plain jane sickle is what you want. Ken Sweet has plenty.

Forget any round bailer. One, they need some power and 2, what are you going to do with rounds anyway. You don't have any way to move or store them.

you want small squares, no bale wagon and some help to pick them up. A pickup is a nice haywagon. You'll need a rake. For a small holding, a side delivery NH or JD is just fine. They are ground drive and pull with a quad or your lawn tractor or your little tractor. You don't need a tedder or a merger or any of that crap, You want simple and reliable. Just keep the implements greased and in the barn when not in use. I keep my implements outside in the summer, but they are all tarped. In the winter they come into the shop where it's heated and get a complete service, all fluids changed, washed and greased (always after washing) and I never wash them during hay time, only when I put them up. The it's off to the barn to sit until the next summer.

I run big stuff with big tractors but I do it professionally. I started like you and grew.

Make it fun, don't make it tedious. I have fun doing what I do. It's always been enjoyable for me and I make good money doing it. I look forward with pride to bringing in a field of excellent forage. It makes my customers happy and me as well.

This probably sounds stupid but I feel closer to God out there in the field, all alone and if I make a mistake or I have a breakdown, I'm responsible, me alone. No one to blame, no one to pass the buck on. You take care of it and go on. That's what life is all about.

You'll have issues, we all do. Machines break. Far as bailers are concerned, I'm always around to offer advice.


What specifically is wrong with a round mini bale? what is wrong with buying haying tools sized for small tractors? a lot of hay is baled on steep hillsides in Europe using 2 wheel tractors or RTV's in some cases

The Wolagri mini balers have a sixty pound bale maximum wieght from what I remember.

The Wolagri mini baler uses sisal twine or poly from what i remember and a white plastic bale wrap and you can have a wrapper integral with the baler or a separate wrapper to follow the baler or bring the bales to it.
 
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#12  
Good afternoon Dr.,

You can purchase a small round mini baler from Wolagri USA to do your
haybaling with ease as these small balers are ment for very small 2-wheel and 4-wheel small tractors and they are used in steep terrain in europe by small farming operations.


You can purchase a small disc mower for your Kubota from Ken Sweet and it will work fine for your hay mowing. Pleas contact ken and ask him about his small farm disc mowers and sickle bar mowers as he is a "Tractorbynet" forum sponsor in good standing.

Ken also ships implements from his warehouse in Kentcucky as well.

You can buy a Wolagri mini baler with a bale wrapper attached to it or purchase one separately to wrap the bales. The white plastic wrapper will help preserve the hay longer and reduce damage from vermin by sealing the bale when wrapping it.

The national distributor for Wolagri is a few miles from me just over the New York Border in The State of Pennsylvania.


wolagriusa.com
Wolagri Home Page: costruzione di macchine agricole inerenti alla fienagione


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Once you go flail you never go back:thumbsup::licking::drool:

Do you have a better contact info? The usa link is not working. What is the name of the distributor in PA? What is their email or phone number? Thanks!
And thanks to everyone with their input. I certainly enjoy hearing your comments.
 
   / Hay baling #13  
Here is the information you need Dr. Dave;

Shame on me I do not remember his name though:eek:

Wolagri USA
Rr 2 box 4315
Brackney, Pennsylvania 18812-9754

Phone 1-607-237-8456

If you chat with him would you ask him if he will
be at the Empire Farm Days this coming week
and let me know if possible please.
 
   / Hay baling #14  
What specifically is wrong with a round mini bale? what is wrong with buying haying tools sized for small tractors? a lot of hay is baled on steep hillsides in Europe using 2 wheel tractors or RTV's in some cases

The Wolagri mini balers have a sixty pound bale maximum wieght from what I remember.

The Wolagri mini baler uses sisal twine or poly from what i remember and a white plastic bale wrap and you can have a wrapper integral with the baler or a separate wrapper to follow the baler or bring the bales to it.

Nothing except that a sixty pound round bale would be about the size of a large shredded wheat biscuit.

I have a feeling the price of admission on these mini hay tools exceeds their worth by a wide margin.

It's the shock load that higher capacity bailing places on the PTO that causes failure when using smaller tractors with square bailers. It's all about sizing the bailer to the power unit. I'd take a tip from the Amish and get an older NH or JD and put a honda engine, centrifugal clutch and Vee belt drive and run the bailer with a pony motor. then you could pull it with a quad or an RTV (whatever that is....RTV to me is Room Temperature Vulcanizing like in blue glue).
 

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