djradz
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We ended up putting a 12 v strobe light, something like what some of the school buses around here now use. Some kind of flasher we think is imperative.
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Hay ride
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Gunfighter
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I'm sure that L3000D will have no problems pulling a load of people on a hay ride. I can remember years back using a Farmall Cub (red, 11hp) to pull loaded hay wagon in hill country..
My main concern today would be liability an who is responsible if
someone should take a tumble. I would definitely check with my
insurance carrier to see if I'm covered..
We live in a sue crazy society where jury give large awards.
Just fighting it in court could cost a bundle even if you won...
My main concern today would be liability an who is responsible if
someone should take a tumble. I would definitely check with my
insurance carrier to see if I'm covered..
We live in a sue crazy society where jury give large awards.
Just fighting it in court could cost a bundle even if you won...
RobertN
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My only comment is to watch the clutch. Most tractors have a clutch that's either in or out; it's hard to slip.
I flipped my 7 year old off the back of a trailer where ihe was sitting; we were buildin a parade float, and taking a test run up our little road. I was in first gear on my Farmal-A, which is pretty low geared, and was at low throttle. But, the clutch caught right away, and we jerked forward, even if only at 1mph. He did a not very gracefule roll of the back.
After that, I put a grab/safety rail on the back of the trailer.
I flipped my 7 year old off the back of a trailer where ihe was sitting; we were buildin a parade float, and taking a test run up our little road. I was in first gear on my Farmal-A, which is pretty low geared, and was at low throttle. But, the clutch caught right away, and we jerked forward, even if only at 1mph. He did a not very gracefule roll of the back.
After that, I put a grab/safety rail on the back of the trailer.
beenthere
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Sorry, but I must beg to differ with your conclusion that clutches (on most tractors) are either engaged or not engaged (in or out). There is (on a clutch in reasonable to good condition) a position where the clutch will slip. Sometimes letting a foot slip off the clutch will engage them quickly, but that is the exception. No different from a car or truck clutch that is in working order.
I couldn't let this one just pass and let readers think that your conclusion might be true for most clutch tractors, new or old.
I couldn't let this one just pass and let readers think that your conclusion might be true for most clutch tractors, new or old.
Buck
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You'll have no problem with HP---
Just make sure it isn't hilly and wet.
Buck
Just make sure it isn't hilly and wet.
Buck
Just one thought.
You may want to consider running in 4WD since it will help in your ability to stop from being pushed down any hills. This may not be a good idea on dry pavement and probably not needed there but if the roads are wet or slippery or dirt the 4WD would provide another margin of safety.
I speak from experience since I once slid down a wet, grassy hill like I was on ice. I had my FEL on and that took just enough weight off the rear tires that I couldn't stop. I always go down slippery hills in 4WD now.
You may want to consider running in 4WD since it will help in your ability to stop from being pushed down any hills. This may not be a good idea on dry pavement and probably not needed there but if the roads are wet or slippery or dirt the 4WD would provide another margin of safety.
I speak from experience since I once slid down a wet, grassy hill like I was on ice. I had my FEL on and that took just enough weight off the rear tires that I couldn't stop. I always go down slippery hills in 4WD now.
RobertN
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I will differ based on my expierience on my old Farmall, and friends expierience who have pulling tractors. The clutches can be slipped, but no where near like a car. The tractor is made to pull hard. If you slip a clutch on something made to pull big bottom plows or discs, there would be too much slippage and clutch damage.
If you pull a wagon or float with people on it, you have to be careful. I made this post, because I rolled my 7 year old off the back of our float last year. I slipped the clutch as best I could, at low rpm, in first gear. Even though that Farmall will only do a mile per hour in first gear, it lurched forward. Ian was sitting by the rear of the trailer, and took a tumble off. Fortunately, this was during a test run before the parade. After that, I made a grab/cross bar for the back of the float; I didn't want the chance of someone falling off again. The parade was successful, with the Cub Scout pack winning 1st place in the parade.
Letting the foot slip off the clutch would be obvious, albeit embarassing. It is not however, the exception.
Not all tractors are the same. Not all clutches react the same, whether worn or new. Some may slip easier than others...
The main point is that the original poster is aware of the possibility, and tries to be safer with the knowledge. It is good to try these things out before pulling with people on the trailer, and be safe in doing it. It is one thing to pull a box scraper or a plow. But, when you got people on the wagon behind, it's a bit different driving.
If you pull a wagon or float with people on it, you have to be careful. I made this post, because I rolled my 7 year old off the back of our float last year. I slipped the clutch as best I could, at low rpm, in first gear. Even though that Farmall will only do a mile per hour in first gear, it lurched forward. Ian was sitting by the rear of the trailer, and took a tumble off. Fortunately, this was during a test run before the parade. After that, I made a grab/cross bar for the back of the float; I didn't want the chance of someone falling off again. The parade was successful, with the Cub Scout pack winning 1st place in the parade.
Letting the foot slip off the clutch would be obvious, albeit embarassing. It is not however, the exception.
Not all tractors are the same. Not all clutches react the same, whether worn or new. Some may slip easier than others...
The main point is that the original poster is aware of the possibility, and tries to be safer with the knowledge. It is good to try these things out before pulling with people on the trailer, and be safe in doing it. It is one thing to pull a box scraper or a plow. But, when you got people on the wagon behind, it's a bit different driving.
JJT
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I'd add safety chains to the hitch if I were pulling a wagon load of kids.
BE CAREFUL!
BE CAREFUL!
TresCrows
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Are any of their parents lawyers, do they know any lawyers, can they spell lawyer? If yes is the answer to any of these questions I would politely decline their offer.
What does the State Police have to say about your venture out onto public roads, do you have running lights, Triangle signs--are there seat belts, 5 MPH bumpers and air bags? Will helmets and knee pads be required?
J
What does the State Police have to say about your venture out onto public roads, do you have running lights, Triangle signs--are there seat belts, 5 MPH bumpers and air bags? Will helmets and knee pads be required?
J
Well the hay rides went on "without a hitch" (no pun intended). Max load was about 20 people, mainly adults, in fact there were more adults than kids. And to be honest, the "adults" were more roudy than the kids.
The L3000DT handled the load without even breaking a sweat. I mainly ran it in 8th gear (top gear for my machine) and on a few occasions shifted into 7th on a long hill. Going down hills was my only concern, but I just left it in 7th going down long hills and it kept the speed under control.
I ran it in 4WD for a little while, but soon decided that it wasn't necessary for dry, very rural, back roads. I saw maybe one car the whole evening.
Thanks for all the input. If others are thinking about hosting a hay ride, please take some of the advice offered here. There is good information on this site!
The L3000DT handled the load without even breaking a sweat. I mainly ran it in 8th gear (top gear for my machine) and on a few occasions shifted into 7th on a long hill. Going down hills was my only concern, but I just left it in 7th going down long hills and it kept the speed under control.
I ran it in 4WD for a little while, but soon decided that it wasn't necessary for dry, very rural, back roads. I saw maybe one car the whole evening.
Thanks for all the input. If others are thinking about hosting a hay ride, please take some of the advice offered here. There is good information on this site!