Sully2
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DieselPower said:
Where I live...#1 diesel fuel and "kerosene" is two totally different critters...and in my Kubota manual it dont say jack squat about using kerosene for fuel!
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Where I live...#1 diesel fuel and "kerosene" is two totally different critters...and in my Kubota manual it dont say jack squat about using kerosene for fuel!
mjarrels said:
Mark, I think (or at least I hope!) that he was talking about an electric heat gun rather than an open flame of any sort
. For situations like this I actually prefer my wife's hair dryer (don't tell) because it does not get quite as hot.Tim
Sully2
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cp1969 said:
"Much" different?? No idea. But I did see a "kerosene" stove once filled up with diesel fuel.....smoked like a SOB!!!
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Kerosene releases heat when burned, making it useful as a fuel. Its heating value, or heat of combustion, is around 18,500 Btu/lb, or 43.1 MJ/kg, making it similar to that of diesel.
Kerosene is obtained from the fractional distillation of petroleum at 150 °C and 275 °C (carbon chains from the C12 to C15 range).
Typically, kerosene directly distilled from crude oil requires some treatment, either in a Merox unit or a hydrotreater, to reduce its sulfur content and its corrosiveness. Kerosene can also be produced by a hydrocracker, which is used to upgrade the parts of crude oil that would otherwise only be good for fuel oil.
At one time it was widely used in kerosene lamps and lanterns. Now it is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8). A form of kerosene known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to smoke points and freeze points.
Diesel is produced from petroleum, and is sometimes called petrodiesel when there is a need to distinguish it from diesel obtained from other sources such as biodiesel. It is a hydrocarbon mixture, obtained in the fractional distillation of crude oil between 200 °C and 350 °C at atmospheric pressure.
Petroleum derived diesel is composed of about 75% saturated hydrocarbons (primarily paraffins including n, iso, and cycloparaffins), and 25% aromatic hydrocarbons (including naphthalenes and alkylbenzenes).[5] The average chemical formula for common diesel fuel is C12H26, ranging from approx. C10H22 to C15H32.
The density of diesel is about 850 grams per liter. When burnt, diesel typically releases about 40.9 megajoules (MJ) per liter.
In short, they are similar but are by no means the same. You would not want to run full strength kerosene in your modern diesel engine, it wouldn't last long. However, when used in ratio's of up to about 1/4 kerosene to "cut" diesel fuel it has no real adverse effects.
Kerosene is obtained from the fractional distillation of petroleum at 150 °C and 275 °C (carbon chains from the C12 to C15 range).
Typically, kerosene directly distilled from crude oil requires some treatment, either in a Merox unit or a hydrotreater, to reduce its sulfur content and its corrosiveness. Kerosene can also be produced by a hydrocracker, which is used to upgrade the parts of crude oil that would otherwise only be good for fuel oil.
At one time it was widely used in kerosene lamps and lanterns. Now it is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8). A form of kerosene known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to smoke points and freeze points.
Diesel is produced from petroleum, and is sometimes called petrodiesel when there is a need to distinguish it from diesel obtained from other sources such as biodiesel. It is a hydrocarbon mixture, obtained in the fractional distillation of crude oil between 200 °C and 350 °C at atmospheric pressure.
Petroleum derived diesel is composed of about 75% saturated hydrocarbons (primarily paraffins including n, iso, and cycloparaffins), and 25% aromatic hydrocarbons (including naphthalenes and alkylbenzenes).[5] The average chemical formula for common diesel fuel is C12H26, ranging from approx. C10H22 to C15H32.
The density of diesel is about 850 grams per liter. When burnt, diesel typically releases about 40.9 megajoules (MJ) per liter.
In short, they are similar but are by no means the same. You would not want to run full strength kerosene in your modern diesel engine, it wouldn't last long. However, when used in ratio's of up to about 1/4 kerosene to "cut" diesel fuel it has no real adverse effects.
Sully2
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Dont tell me you typed all of that from memory...lol...
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Memory, what memory. I Wikied most of it, my internet memory bank.
Sully2 said:
On #1 diesel?
I used to run Jet-A, #1, or kerosene interchangeably in an indoor kerosene heater. Couldn't tell the difference.
We used to haul Jet-A and #1 out of an Amoco distribution terminal, and both came out of the same tank. The only difference was what was on the Bill of Lading. Although they did not have "kerosene" available as a product, a chemist at that terminal explained to me about the overlapping specs of #1D, kerosene, and Jet-A and that one product could be refined that could be within the specs of all three. Once I heard that, I quit buying kerosene for the heater and used waste amounts of JP-4 and #1D that was left on the truck at the end of the day.
shaley
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How come you don't have a block heater up there in the great white north.