Heavy Duty Herbicide?

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#11  
Burning is a thought once the stuff is down. Dam is too steep for the DR Mower. I've used a 'billygoat' (which I think is the same thing) but I'll never do it again. That thing beat me to death.

I emailed the regional DuPont rep and he recommended Arsenal which is made by BASF (oddly enough).

I may use that on the slope in front of the cabin. It is a much smaller area than the dam and could be done with a backpack sprayer.

The dam was built in the 1950s as part of a watershed project. They were to be maintained by the county's soil and water commision. Well, that group, which is comprised of local volunteers, is broke. But the county commission says that they must maintain these dams. Since they have no money, the county is trying to enact a tax on everyone who lives or owns property within these watershed zones....even if they don't have ponds or dams. My first impression of the county councilers in this poor, backwards and poorly educated county is that they are so woefully ignorant of even the most basic matters in local, state and federal civics that they are hardly even capable of understanding the legality and of implications of such a tax. I personally think the whole notion is illegal. However, as with most good sheep....I mean citizens, if the tax is low enough and they keep the dam cleared, I'll probably just pay it. It will be cheaper in the short term.

The reason I say short term is that no 'good' tax goes unraised or unexploited and in the end it is likely to cost me dearly. But I don't think I have it in me to tilt windmills with a county council that has no brains but all the authority.
 
   / Heavy Duty Herbicide?
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#12  
Sorry, double post.
 
   / Heavy Duty Herbicide? #13  
You could do what one landowner I know did to clear his dam. Hire a high school student, pay him $2/hour and hand him a weed whip. :eek::D It builds character....

And blisters. :D

I was the student. :D:D:D

If the BillyGoat beat you up the DR very likely will as well.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Heavy Duty Herbicide?
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Well, its going to be nice and cool Saturday (88) and I may just head down there and work on the slope one more time with my 16 year old son and 13 year old daughter. Axes and machetes, etc.

Its not that we can't do it, but we'll have to do it again twice in the spring and again next fall.

Also, the herbicide websites make a good point. With gums and a lot of other brush, the more you chop it down, the denser it comes back. That has definitely been the case over the last few years.
 
   / Heavy Duty Herbicide? #15  
Google Forestry suppliers and look up a product called Garlon. I use it to control Beech trees in my woods, just mix it according to instructions with fuel oil and spray away. If sprayed on the lower 18" of the bark of the tree it will kill trees up to 6" in diameter.
 
   / Heavy Duty Herbicide? #16  
N80 said:
Well, its going to be nice and cool Saturday (88) and I may just head down there and work on the slope one more time with my 16 year old son and 13 year old daughter. Axes and machetes, etc.

Its not that we can't do it, but we'll have to do it again twice in the spring and again next fall.

Also, the herbicide websites make a good point. With gums and a lot of other brush, the more you chop it down, the denser it comes back. That has definitely been the case over the last few years.

You have teen-age children? That is your own work force! Why are you even considering chemicals?

Seriously, you need a good 55 gallon 3pt. hitch sprayer with a pto roller pump. It is easy enough to rig one up, or buy one already rigged, to use either the boom or a hand-held wand sprayer.

I have just skimmed over some of the posts, but I think I read where there isn't all that much acreage to cover, right? You can effectively control brush on a small area with your axes and machetes. Let the kids do the sweaty work; you come behind them with a paint brush and some chemical with which to treat the "cut stumps". Then, those gum trees won't sprout back a dozen branches for every one you cut.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Brush+Control++Bob+Masters,+Tom+Gee&btnG=Google+Search
Here is a good link to an on-line brochure on brush control. It is the first link on that search page.

You need a good sprayer on the farm, but you can control small areas of brush with hack and squirt treatments and cut stump treatments.

I like the combination of Grazon P+D and Remedy for a high-volume foliar spray. I think Remedy and diesel fuel is the mix of choice for the cut-stump and hack-and-squirt treatments.

Good luck. Don't sweat too much. Watch out for cottonmouths and yellow jacket nests on that dam.

Just trying to cheer you up.:D
 
   / Heavy Duty Herbicide? #18  
N80--

I think you will be happier in the long run if you think about what you want growing there in addition to getting rid of what is there now. Sure, you can kill everthing that's there, but as long as there is sun, water and air something will always grow. The trick is getting something to grow that isn't objectionable and doesn't make a lot of work for you.

Another thought: the one thing that is guaranteed to slow the growth of plants is shade. Fast-growing trees planted to the south will help somewhat.
 
   / Heavy Duty Herbicide? #19  
N80- Just sprig it all in kudzu...in short order everything else will be dead and you'll have ground cover for erosion control:eek: Just kidding.
I'm dealing with a similar but much smaller scale problem- I have a small pond and dam on my mountain property. Trees have grown up on the dam over the years before I owned it...that is a problem. Some advise leaving any tree bigger than 6" diameter or so, because if cut the roots will rot and may cause a dam leak. Cut any that are smaller. Of course being 17" short on rain so far this year up there means I don't have much of a pond left to dam anyway....

Be VERY glad you don't have the "tree of heaven" on your land. It is getting to be a real problem in some areas in the NC mountains. Very hard to kill and if you just cut it you get 10X as many over a 30-40 ft radius coming back up. It grows very fast but is useless as firewood, another name for it is the "stinking tree". It also somehow poisons the ground making it very hard for desireable trees to grow.
 

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