Help from all y'all experts please

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Help from all y\'all experts please

Ok another new tractor buyer here that is getting more confused the more he looks.

Background – Bought a house outside of Houston TX on 4 acres. Mostly flat all open no trees or obstacles. The property does slope off to a lake and grass right up to the water almost. All along the front and side there is a 15-20’ wide V-shaped drainage ditch which needs to be cut. Some of the “field” part is smooth other parts are rough with 6-12” clumps of grass in some areas, some areas eroded near the lake, some areas are muddy and some areas are pretty rough not to mention the sometimes foot high fire ant mounds. Pictures worth a 1000 words hopefully I did this link right: Photos

Not knowing anything about trying to cut this much grass we bought a Scotts 20hp 48” cut riding mower because we didn’t know any better and the JD salesman said this was all we needed. The Scotts is fantastic for cutting the nice St. Augustine sodded area that is around the house but once in the field it isn’t as good. It gets the job done but I feel I am tearing it up trying to cut everything. On the grass clumps I have to cut back to ¼ speed and the ride is really bumpy like riding over bowling balls. The eroded areas I have to stay away from as the holes will swallow the tires and the thing gets stuck even it a little standing water. It does the drainage ditches pretty well with a few areas being just too steep.

I am getting tired of beating the little Scotts machine and myself to death just cutting the grass. My lovely wife has authorized the purchase of a real tractor this year (or was it I bugged her enough until she just said yes). Keeping the Scotts for the grass around the house.

The age old question for the experts here now is which tractor to buy. Yes I have read most of the similar posts recently but like I said I am getting really confused by all this. I know a few things I want for sure. I want a FEL, we have extensive landscaping and it nearly killed me last year moving 8 cubic yards of mulch around the house by hand, plus I need to fill in some of the low areas and get the drainage working a little better and I know the FEL will come in handy for other projects. I know I want a rear mount mower as opposed to mid mount. Probably looking at 4WD for the ditches, slope to lake and the wet areas and mud. Probably looking at new, can’t find too much good used stuff of what I want.

I would like to stay at or under $15,000. There is a good JD place 10 minutes away and Kubota 15 minutes away. New Holland a bit further, don’t see or really want much else other than the big 3.

Before y’all start the Kubota BX series and JD 2000 series are just too small, don’t want them, ain’t gonna work. Recently looked at Kubota 7500 and 2710 both maybe the size I need? Kubota 2600 and 3000 too big? JD 790 was nice. NH TC24D was nice.

So what do all the experts here say is the best size and the best value for my situation???

Oh also brush hog or finish mower?
 
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Re: Help from all y\'all experts please

bobobro,

It sure looks like you have a really nice place there. I agree you will beat that Scott's machine pretty good with all of them clumps and stuff. I also agree that you need somewhere around 20 to 25 horsepower. As far as Kubota, John Deere and New Holland not one of them is any better than the other. They are all good machines. Most people here will tell you that the dealer is a pretty important thing. He has to service it after the sale. I guess since you have an idea of what you want I would go out and get all three of them under your seat. Get the feel of which one you like the best. Get to know the dealers some and you will eventually like one of them over the others. Get your prices together, it is worth paying more from a dealer that you like but you have to draw a line there also. But just get out there and test drive them, look at the options and how they fit with what you want to do. Keep us all posted here and keep us up to date.

My personal case was I started looking at Kubota and John Deere and basically ended up with New Holland because of the attitudes from the dealers. You may find it different where your from but I will only stress the dealer again.


murph
 
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i think u pretty much have it down to what size u want, stay in the 20 to 25 hp range give or take a few hp , pick the one that feels best to you. did u mention if u are going with a fel? get one with the tractor, best implement u can have. i went orange but the others are fine also. just a matter of preferce and the cost that can be worked out, in some areas u can get better prices on blue, some others with green and then agin u can do better with orange. alot depends on the area AND THE DEALER. keep us informed please, and welcome to the forum
 
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Lets deviate a slight bit here. Seeing as how you already have the close to the house mowing handled,why look at a ag-utility tractor? It will handle your rough areas much better than a CUT,and be built stronger too. It will also bring with it more loader lift,3 pth lift,and down right low end grunt. You will have many more units to choose from on the used market. Might be kinda tough though finding a used mfd one under 40 hp or so. The new "00" series from www.mahindrausa.com is worth looking at. Just check out the other brands forum below.
 
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You are on the right track with a larger frame tractor. I will just throw in that you should avoid the JD790 because I think you will want hydrostat for the FEL work. I am partial to Massey, but if you dont have a nearby dealer dont worry about it. The b7800 is getting a lot of positive press, dont know about pricing. Even if you can just get the brush hog, FEL, and box blade to start you will have plenty to do. Other implements can be rented for one-time uses.
 
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It would sound as though all the homework is finished. It's just that agonizing moment trying to assure yourself that you have made the best choice for your needs.

At this point put all tractor thoughts aside for a week or so and then go get the one that's allready been chosen by the subliminal mind. It'll tell you what's best for you.

Egon
 
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Here's a machine that probably fits your needs if you are anywhere near a Branson dealer. This tractor, with FEL is right in your price range. These are made in S. Korea, which is going to be the next Japan, tech. wise. They rank about 10th in the world in Gross Domestic Product along with Canada, and growing rapidly.
 
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"As far as Kubota, John Deere and New Holland not one of them is any better than the other. "

Murph, this is where I will definitely disagree with you. There are definitely differences that make a manufactuer's particular model better then a competitors model. This is how most of us end up decidiing on which brand and model we choose. For example, in my opinion, no one built or builds a better hydrostatic transmission then Kubota's. No one else has NH's supersteer. You will find that there are significant differences and perhaps the very reason this forum exists, to discuss those differences, good or bad. Rat...
 
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Well Rat,

I still disagree with you. Yes each one has advantages that is pertinent to each of us. But over all not one of them can claim that they are a better tractor than the other. All three are good and all three of them have their problems. And I based on experience disagree with you on Kubota having the best HST when my dad's neighbor's has been in three times in the 5 years he has owned it for the Hydro transmission. I don't know what the reasons were for but I do know that he paid a pretty penny to repair it the last time. But I would not be afraid to buy a Kubota. Not one of us could come and say their tractor is better than someone else's and that is the point I was trying to get across. As far as saying one is better mechanically than the other, well we all could sit here and argue for the rest of our lives and never get anyplace.

murph
 

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