Help getting tractor started

[Richard]

transfer pump?

I looked for one and didn't see one. The fuel flow (gravity) goes from tank down to filter (on right side of engine). out of the filter, UNDER the engine and back up on the left side where you see the injector pump.

The line comes up and essentially, does two 90 degree turns (ok, so I'm rounding ) . The tube comes up, bends over then has the 90 elbow on it that takes it into the bushing of the injector pump.

This morning, I removed again, the fuel filter and had a trickle of fuel. I blew backwards through the inlet hole into the fuel tank. The fuel just BLEW out the inlet tube after I blew it clean. So, I've clearly got something blocking the inlet of the tank that I need to clear out.

Once I did that, the tractor is running (starting) quickly so I'm HOPING that is/was my problem.

Not going to touch it for couple days & let my wifes cousin (actual owner) clean the tank out

 

[Richard]

I meant to mention this in my last post...sorry for not doing so.

The tractor is an International 444, my father in law thinks it's date of birth was early/mid 60's

I didn't think the make of tractor would actually matter (and I suppose it still doesn't other than perhaps someone knowing if that model had a transfer pump or not)

By the way, an hour ago I went to move the tractor which was in my driveway hooked up to my battery charger. Fired up like a little kitten!!

 

[Farmwithjunk]

I meant to mention this in my last post...sorry for not doing so.

The tractor is an International 444, my father in law thinks it's date of birth was early/mid 60's

I didn't think the make of tractor would actually matter (and I suppose it still doesn't other than perhaps someone knowing if that model had a transfer pump or not)

By the way, an hour ago I went to move the tractor which was in my driveway hooked up to my battery charger. Fired up like a little kitten!!

I didn't know the 444 used a CAV injector pump. That's the same as a Perkins diesel (common to Massey Ferguson, some Allis Chalmers, ect) The International Harvester application may or may NOT use a primary pump. Any IH experts out there may be able to enlighten BOTH of us.

 

[JerryG]

I didn't know the 444 used a CAV injector pump. That's the same as a Perkins diesel (common to Massey Ferguson, some Allis Chalmers, ect) The International Harvester application may or may NOT use a primary pump. Any IH experts out there may be able to enlighten BOTH of us.

That's funny. I thought the same thing about it being a Perkins.. That is why I posted the bleed picture and information above.

 

[Richard]

That was one of the things confounding me.

My backhoe (JCB) does have a Perkins and the transfer pump died on it once making it act JUST like this thing is now.

This thing however, appears to be 100% gravity fed up until you get to the injector pump.

Just looked on my hard drive to see if I had an old picture, I don't.

I'm stuck inside doing some stuff but can take a shot of it if anyone wants (entire tractor)

Tonight, the wifes uncle & her cousin came home. I went over what I did with them and we all went out to see it. I fired it up and it took about 3 revolutions of the engine to fire, as opposed to 15 seconds of cranking.

 

[RobJ]

I rebuilt my BIL's Int. 384 and it has a CAV pump and a transfer pump. Tank on the bell housing so it could have been a gravity if yuo wanted. Same pump on his old MF 1080, that thing hated air and had these stupid little gromets in the fuel line connections. Tear one of those up and you were done for the day.

If you blew the line towards the fuel tank then something is still in the tank. you should get a good solid flow even with a gravity feed.

good luck,
rob

 

[Soundguy]

The fuel tank taps on many tractors are prime places for small debri to lodge and block fuel flow. I had to pull, clean.. and then eventually repalce the tap on my NH 7610s due to debri int he tank,.. etc..

Soundguy