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GRUMPA
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Only 2 ways to turn off a deisel and thats to turn off the fuel supply OR block the air supply.
shoppintractors
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<font color="blue">its great...but its not turning off...the engine is still idle even after i turn it off with the key. </font>
I had that happen once on a tractor. After some investigation it turned out to be a dead battery. The ignition switch would not function with a dead battery.
Don
I had that happen once on a tractor. After some investigation it turned out to be a dead battery. The ignition switch would not function with a dead battery.
Don
Bugsy
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I am not familiar with the CAT 933 BUT I do know that there should be a fuel shut-off solenoid on the injection pump. When a diesel does not shut down with a key one of 2 things usually happenned:
1. Current to the solenoid is not getting turned off, maybe a wire went bare?
2. Solenoid went bad.
Those are the 2 most common causes. By this time, you have probably figured out how to "kill" the engine, usually a manual lever near the pump.
Call your local diesel injection shop. It should be a no-brainer to them.
I hope this helps.
George
1. Current to the solenoid is not getting turned off, maybe a wire went bare?
2. Solenoid went bad.
Those are the 2 most common causes. By this time, you have probably figured out how to "kill" the engine, usually a manual lever near the pump.
Call your local diesel injection shop. It should be a no-brainer to them.
I hope this helps.
George
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Most diesels have a manual shutoff of some sort. On tractors or heavy equipment, it may be very basic: cut off the fuel supply line. There ought to be a valve there somewhere if there isn't an emergency button or some such to push.
Only every happened to me once on my Benzes. The vacuum system is used to shut down the fuel supply, open/lock doors, etc. It had a leak, and the car wouldn't shut down. There's a red button of sorts underneath the hood to shut it down manually. On my Benzes, I could just put it in gear and pop the clutch. Wife can't drive anything but stick shift.
On my JD, it'll be the manual shutoff valve just before the fuel filter.
Ralph
Only every happened to me once on my Benzes. The vacuum system is used to shut down the fuel supply, open/lock doors, etc. It had a leak, and the car wouldn't shut down. There's a red button of sorts underneath the hood to shut it down manually. On my Benzes, I could just put it in gear and pop the clutch. Wife can't drive anything but stick shift.
On my JD, it'll be the manual shutoff valve just before the fuel filter.
Ralph
cwray57
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Try pulling up on the foot throttle, this will shut off the pump. It may pull rather hard!
Let us know!
Clark
Let us know!
Clark
Indydirtfarmer
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It's been almost 30 years since I last operated a Cat loader (955K I believe) If memory serves me correctly, you raise the hand throttle past a detent (beyond idle position) and that actuates the fuel shut-off. Ignition keys shutting off diesels is a relatively new concept. Most older equipment would have a seperate fuel "kill switch".
My, how time flies.... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif It's been 30 years already? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
My, how time flies.... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif It's been 30 years already? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
RobS
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Hopefully by now you've got it shut off!
I'm reminded of some childhood mischief. Probably early teen years, some buddies and I snuck into a gravel pit. Just goofing around on sand piles which lead to climbing on equipement. Found a dozer, pretty large. Of course, we're playing with all the levers and such and we find the magic lever to crank the engine. Couldn't stop there, we actually got the thing fired up. How cool, we thought. Fortunately, none of us was brave enough to try to move the thing but shortly after that we realized we had no idea how to shut it off. I distinctly remember walking (OK, running) out of there with the dozer idling in the background. Only more recently has it occured to me that it probably ran out of fuel before they opened back up and they were probably mighty irritated over the weekend visitors as they bled the fuel system.
And now you all know why machines these days all have locking covers on the control panels. It's all because of me and my friends /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I'm reminded of some childhood mischief. Probably early teen years, some buddies and I snuck into a gravel pit. Just goofing around on sand piles which lead to climbing on equipement. Found a dozer, pretty large. Of course, we're playing with all the levers and such and we find the magic lever to crank the engine. Couldn't stop there, we actually got the thing fired up. How cool, we thought. Fortunately, none of us was brave enough to try to move the thing but shortly after that we realized we had no idea how to shut it off. I distinctly remember walking (OK, running) out of there with the dozer idling in the background. Only more recently has it occured to me that it probably ran out of fuel before they opened back up and they were probably mighty irritated over the weekend visitors as they bled the fuel system.
And now you all know why machines these days all have locking covers on the control panels. It's all because of me and my friends /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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In an emergency situation like this you could put the FEL up against an immoveable object (stump or large rock), put it into HIGH range (low torque) and let out the clutch (or push hard on the HST pedal for you hydro guys /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif) and the motor should stall. I've done this often by accident. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
