I agree #2 is what I Use Also . It Works Very well for The accidental brushup,s Like I had yesterday While Mowing .
The darn Vines Follows the Low Hanging Tree Limbs I Mow Under & I Dont Notice it Untill its to Late
. Bobhelp me attack this!
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I agree #2 is what I Use Also . It Works Very well for The accidental brushup,s Like I had yesterday While Mowing .
The darn Vines Follows the Low Hanging Tree Limbs I Mow Under & I Dont Notice it Untill its to Late
. Bob
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Finally I got a solution to the poison oak problem. My native american neighbors at the ranch said poison oak does not bother them at all. So, for 15 bucks an hour, they came over and cut everything down and put them in a burn pile. They will come back in the winter and burn it when we are not around. They have no problem inhaling the smoke and said they do it all the time. Local landscapers also hire them to remove poison oak but charged a fortune for it. I watched them walked into the poison oak brushes and cut at the base with a chain saw then drag the whole brush out with their bare hands. They also pull the vines off the tree. I felt itchy just watching them work. I also ask them to spray roundup at the freshly cut base. Hopefully the roundup with kill the root and keep from growing again next season. My total bill came out to about $300 plus a case of beer to clear about an acre of poison oak.
Glad to here You have a handle on it stumpfield . But Without trying to sound like the safety police .
It aint real smart to burn it , Even if it Doesn,t effect them Right now , Its not good to breath it .
They Aint gonna be the only ones breathing the smoke , IMO . Also I wouldn,t trust roundup to keep the vines from coming back unless They now make a brush or stump killer I,m not aware of . If They do then Nevermind but the regular Roundup wont touch the stuff We have .
But Congrats for not having to deal with it Yourself . . Bob
Might take a look at this post. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1700469#post1700469
. It aint real smart to burn it , Even if it Doesn,t effect them Right now , Its not good to breath it .
They Aint gonna be the only ones breathing the smoke , IMO . Also I wouldn,t trust roundup to keep the vines from coming back unless They now make a brush or stump killer I,m not aware of . If They do then Nevermind but the regular Roundup wont touch the stuff We have .
But Congrats for not having to deal with it Yourself .
. BobMight take a look at this post. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1700469#post1700469
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Well worth it at double the price.... and this is coming from someone very frugal.
About 10 years ago, a neighbor hired a family from Tonga to take out the poison oak on his property without incident...
Some people are less susceptible... unfortunately not those with European Heritage... as a rule.
I've tried without luck to find someone... I just keep attacking it by spraying and over the years have made real progress. It's very tenacious and every year I go on at least two search and destroy missions.
Another neighbor hired some Spanish Speaking Day Laborers... no idea if they were legal or not... two of the 3 ended up in intensive care. They used machete's and a chipper to fill a 20 yard dumpster. I couldn't believe it when I came home and saw what had happened.
Felt really bad for the guys legal or not... neighbor was one who made a fortune in the Dot-Com era and was always looking to get over on any situation...
About 10 years ago, a neighbor hired a family from Tonga to take out the poison oak on his property without incident...
Some people are less susceptible... unfortunately not those with European Heritage... as a rule.
I've tried without luck to find someone... I just keep attacking it by spraying and over the years have made real progress. It's very tenacious and every year I go on at least two search and destroy missions.
Another neighbor hired some Spanish Speaking Day Laborers... no idea if they were legal or not... two of the 3 ended up in intensive care. They used machete's and a chipper to fill a 20 yard dumpster. I couldn't believe it when I came home and saw what had happened.
Felt really bad for the guys legal or not... neighbor was one who made a fortune in the Dot-Com era and was always looking to get over on any situation...
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Ultarunner,"Felt really bad for the guys legal or not... neighbor was one who made a fortune in the Dot-Com era and was always looking to get over on any situation..."
I think they call that frugal.If someone (legal or not) agrees to do a job for a price it becomes the problem of the worker at that point.Too bad,but I bet the U.S. taxpayer paid for that hospital stay.
I think they call that frugal.If someone (legal or not) agrees to do a job for a price it becomes the problem of the worker at that point.Too bad,but I bet the U.S. taxpayer paid for that hospital stay.
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You are probably right... I do know that the guys had never come across poison oak before and there was a language barrier. I would never take advantage of someone like this.
The neighbor retired from the Dot-Com business and was flipping homes... he cleared about 800k from public records by sub-dividing the property and bailing just before a law-suit hit all the home owners...
The guys clearing the brush were getting the new lots ready to go on the Multiple Listing Service.
Neighbor was laughing about it and said he would like to find a couple of these homes every year... said he picked up these two brothers and they were doing the job for 10 cents on the dollar from what he had been quoted for Poison Oak/Brush removal.
The reason I said he likes to Get Over on people is he had submitted a plan to the city showing an easement through my property for a sewer hook-up... there is no easement and he never approached me... the new buyers approached me and that's when I found out about it... the listing stated "Proposed Sewer"
The second thing is he sub-divided by going to the city and HOA saying that he was building his forever home and asked neighbors not to contest it and that his parents would be moving into the original home... he got his final approval on a Friday and Tuesday the property was listed... some people are just users.
I say good riddance... he bought a two million dollar property in the next county next to a ranch owned by friends of my brother and was telling the story how he was able to work the HOA by telling them what they wanted to hear...
Anyway... Poison Oak is bad stuff... the Allergist at the Hospital where I work said everyone is susceptible... it is only a matter of degree and exposure...
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Poison ivy doesn't like cultivation, I've had large areas that I sprayed, plowed under, and replanted in corn and wheat and the poison disappears. BUT let a field sit idle for just a season and the poison starts to come back and reestablish itself.
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Here's what the Pacific Northwest Weed Handbook says:
" Glyphosate ... apply as a 2% solution with hand-held equipment.
Time: Apply when plants are actively growing at or beyond early to full bloom stage. Results are best if applied after fruit forms. Make late summer or fall treatments before leaves lose their green color. Use higher rates for plants that have reached woody stage of growth."
" triclopyr ester (Garlon 4) or
triclopyr amine (Garlon 3A) or
triclopyr + 2,4‑D ester (Crossbow)
Rate Spot treat蓉se 3 lb ae (acid equivalent) Garlon 4 or 2.25 lb ae Garlon 3A with 100 gal water; or 1 pint Crossbow in 12 gal water. Broadcast蓉se 4 to 8 lb ae/A Garlon 4, or 6 to 9 lb ae/A Garlon 3A, or 1 to 2 quarts/A of Crossbow.
Time Apply when plants are actively growing.
Remarks Foliage must be thoroughly wet.
Caution Garlon products are registered for use on rights-of-way, industrial sites, and forestry (release and site preparation). Crossbow can be used on permanent pastures and rangeland up to 1.5 lb ae/A. Observe all grazing and harvesting restrictions."
One of the authors of the book is a real expert on herbicides; I've followed his work for 30 years and if he wrote it, you can take it to the bank. What wasn't mentioned in this part of the book is that it is very important to use a surfactant.
" Glyphosate ... apply as a 2% solution with hand-held equipment.
Time: Apply when plants are actively growing at or beyond early to full bloom stage. Results are best if applied after fruit forms. Make late summer or fall treatments before leaves lose their green color. Use higher rates for plants that have reached woody stage of growth."
" triclopyr ester (Garlon 4) or
triclopyr amine (Garlon 3A) or
triclopyr + 2,4‑D ester (Crossbow)
Rate Spot treat蓉se 3 lb ae (acid equivalent) Garlon 4 or 2.25 lb ae Garlon 3A with 100 gal water; or 1 pint Crossbow in 12 gal water. Broadcast蓉se 4 to 8 lb ae/A Garlon 4, or 6 to 9 lb ae/A Garlon 3A, or 1 to 2 quarts/A of Crossbow.
Time Apply when plants are actively growing.
Remarks Foliage must be thoroughly wet.
Caution Garlon products are registered for use on rights-of-way, industrial sites, and forestry (release and site preparation). Crossbow can be used on permanent pastures and rangeland up to 1.5 lb ae/A. Observe all grazing and harvesting restrictions."
One of the authors of the book is a real expert on herbicides; I've followed his work for 30 years and if he wrote it, you can take it to the bank. What wasn't mentioned in this part of the book is that it is very important to use a surfactant.