Buying Advice Help with Tractor purchase - newbie

[jeff9366]

Can the TN75s take the same 3 pt implements as all these other tractors?

Three Point Hitches are produced to a standard, worldwide. There are various sizes, such as Category 0, Category 1 and Category 2, etc. with the latter having the heaviest components, but within each "category" the hitch is standardized. Category 1 is the most common Three Point Hitch.

 

[gladehound]

I've got a Kioti DK50SE with HST and cab, and I like it a lot. I don't know anything about the NH TN75 except that it is quite a bit more tractor than the DK50 (about 1,000 - 1,500 pounds heavier).

The loader specs are about the same on both of them, which is really surprising that the NH doesn't lift more....

I also have a similar size Kioti with the same loader as the DKXXSE series. It is indeed a strong loader for that size tractor. In fact, I would guess that it exceeds it's rated capacities. However, you have to consider that you can only use the full loader capacity if you have a lot of added weight in the back (I'd consider 1000 lbs tire fill and 1000 lbs on the 3pt the minimum, 2000 on the 3pt better). I would guess that the NH being a much heavier and longer tractor to start with would be more stable lifting any given weight and also has more structure to deal with the stresses of lifting heavy stuff and pushing over trees. Don't get me wrong, the DKXXSE and DSXX10 series Kioti tractors are very stable compared to some of the shorter large frame CUTS in the same class, but I'm sure there is a big improvement in stability going to a 75 hp utility tractor.

 

[keg99]

Keep in mind, the TN75 has a top mounted exhaust pipe. Looks like the Kioti exhausts down below. If you are doing a lot of work in the woods, expect that top monuted exhaust pipe to get whacked. Otherwise, looking like the TN75 is a real good choice.

 

[gladehound]

Keep in mind, the TN75 has a top mounted exhaust pipe. Looks like the Kioti exhausts down below. If you are doing a lot of work in the woods, expect that top monuted exhaust pipe to get whacked. Otherwise, looking like the TN75 is a real good choice.

If doing a lot of woods work, you'll want some protection for that cab on the TN75 anyway. A set of bars that go from the front grill guard to the cab roof would do a lot to protect both the exhaust and the front windshield with the added benefit that it makes it easier to get under branches because they will just ride up and over the bars and cab.

 

[sd455dan]

Keep in mind, the TN75 has a top mounted exhaust pipe. Looks like the Kioti exhausts down below. If you are doing a lot of work in the woods, expect that top monuted exhaust pipe to get whacked. Otherwise, looking like the TN75 is a real good choice.

Could always add some sort of protection for the exhaust- that's what we did after ripping off the muffler on the Rhino never had a damaged exhaust since.
agree with the poster who said some cab protection would be a good idea to.


With the hot summers we have had and doing a lot of mowing and work in the woods been very happy to have a vertical exhaust - JMO and may be alone on this, but top exhaust is less likely to start a fire

 

[TripleR]

If doing a lot of woods work, you'll want some protection for that cab on the TN75 anyway. A set of bars that go from the front grill guard to the cab roof would do a lot to protect both the exhaust and the front windshield with the added benefit that it makes it easier to get under branches because they will just ride up and over the bars and cab.

This works well.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

I also have a similar size Kioti with the same loader as the DKXXSE series. It is indeed a strong loader for that size tractor. In fact, I would guess that it exceeds it's rated capacities. However, you have to consider that you can only use the full loader capacity if you have a lot of added weight in the back (I'd consider 1000 lbs tire fill and 1000 lbs on the 3pt the minimum, 2000 on the 3pt better). I would guess that the NH being a much heavier and longer tractor to start with would be more stable lifting any given weight and also has more structure to deal with the stresses of lifting heavy stuff and pushing over trees. Don't get me wrong, the DKXXSE and DSXX10 series Kioti tractors are very stable compared to some of the shorter large frame CUTS in the same class, but I'm sure there is a big improvement in stability going to a 75 hp utility tractor.

I agree with your thoughts. The TN 75 is just more tractor plain and simple. But it's also got a Cat II 3 point hitch, so implements for it will cost more. But the OP could buy a couple of implements for the $6,000 - $7,000 savings versus the DK50SE and the L4240.

There are times I wish I had more tractor than my DK50SE, even on my paltry little 30 acres. But there are other times the DK50 is just right. When I need something smaller, I've got the BX23.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

Hey Pappy- The Kioti DK50SE with HST & Kubota L4240 HST are also at the top of my list (rear lift, loader lift, hydraulic flow, remotes). Each of these on Ebay are ~$19.5K, plus ~$2 - $3K to ship to Idaho (both with ~650 hrs).

The TN75s has quick attach bucket, 2 rear remotes, heated/ac cab, telescopic 3pt links, etc. with 930 hrs. But as you say, is heavy and will drink more fuel. Rear lift is huge - more like someone pulling large farm equipment. The guy claims he can sell it to me for $15.5 delivered.

The last one I'm looking at is a TYM T450 with 2 rear remotes (including the center & draft cylinders), quick attach, low hours for $17.2K

That sounds like a good deal on the NH. Keep in mind that it has a Cat II 3 point hitch, and Cat II implements will be more expensive than the Cat I implements that fit the DK50 and L4240, but the savings on the tractor will pay for some implements.

Also, the L4240 is a great tractor and has the high-low in each range and the throttle that is linked to the HST pedal, which are great features that I'd love to have. But it's not quite as powerful as the DK50. The L4740 is a better head-to-head comparison to the DK50.

You might look into U-Ship to see what it would cost to have the tractor delivered that way. $2k - $3k sounds extraordinarily expensive.

Finally, the great thing about all 3 of these tractors is that they are all Tier III or Interim Tier IV, which means no DPF or emissions nonsense to worry about.

 

[sd455dan]

That sounds like a good deal on the NH. Keep in mind that it has a Cat II 3 point hitch, and Cat II implements will be more expensive than the Cat I implements that fit the DK50 and L4240, but the savings on the tractor will pay for some implements.

Also, the L4240 is a great tractor and has the high-low in each range and the throttle that is linked to the HST pedal, which are great features that I'd love to have. But it's not quite as powerful as the DK50. The L4740 is a better head-to-head comparison to the DK50.

You might look into U-Ship to see what it would cost to have the tractor delivered that way. $2k - $3k sounds extraordinarily expensive.

Finally, the great thing about all 3 of these tractors is that they are all Tier III or Interim Tier IV, which means no DPF or emissions nonsense to worry about.

Unless i am missing something -there is no reason that cat 1 implements cannot be used with the TN75.

My 55 hp rhino is also cat 2 and I just use the sleeves inside the 3 point arms for my cat 1 implements and readjust my sway control chains.

If the concern is the actual PTO most larger cat 2 capable tractors have both the standard 6 spline 540 shaft and also a fine spline 1000 rpm shaft for the heavier duty implements.

Also this from one of the NH TN75 reviews here on TBN (REVIEWER'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION)

Pros: Handles both cat one and two equipment.
Cons: None.
Type of User: Homeowner 50-100 Acres

Obviously have to be a little more careful with the implements with the extra power and weight of the New Holland

 

[kminnick]

Nice looking rig TripleR. I love the grapple and box scraper with hyd. rippers. I've been looking so much my head is spinning. Maybe I should just buy implements for my UniMog...

Seriously, when I got the invoice from the escrow company for the TN75S, it looked fishy. It wasn't from J.P.Morgan (at least the IP address wasn't). Seriously, does everything have to be a scam out there?