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gcmar1

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my wife and I just purchased a 125 ac. farm in western Mass. I know that I will be needing to buy a tractor. The dairy portion is to be discontinued. However, there is sizable land, certainly over 100 ac., that needs to be mowed and hayed. Question: (1) Kama and Farm Pro? Do you recommend? (2) horsepower? I suspect that I may be getting into planting and a lot of cutting. 50? 60? 70+?? (3) disadvantages to buying an off-brand machine?

Thanks for your input. I really, really appreciate it. gm
 
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I'm also in Western Mass and I just ordered a Kama KM554. My friend in NH bought a 39hp Long a few months back and thinks its at the lower limit of what he needs. I posted an inquiry for what I should be thinking about for a 60 acre tree farm with a few acres of fields to mow, 1/4 mile driveway to plow and lots of woods and woods trails to maintain. The consensus was 40 to 50 hp and 4wd a must.

Like you, I'm a newbie and just starting out in the tractor business, so I'm working with advice and little experience. With that cautionary note, check out www.artrac.com.

I just ordered a 50hp Kama 554 from Chip Uren at Artrac, well known as Bluechip on the forums. He has a good reputation from the references he provided and the chatter on the forums. He has a bunch of 554s coming in this month and is sending one my way to arrive in mid-November. You'd be welcome to check it out here in Granvillle if you haven't bought something, or even if you did.
 
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100-125 ac is sizeable land. Here's something to think about. I mow with a 10' mower, don't overlap much, and mow at a pretty brisk speed. Takes me about 2.5 - 2.75 hours to mow about 10 ac.... non-stop.

You will want a minimum of 50 hp for a 10' mower.. preferable more.. and probably a bigger mower.. 10' being
-minimum-. More like 12' or 15'.. course.. those can be cost prohibitive ( although i hear that howse is comping out with a 'copy' of the flex15 mower ).

Now.. all that said.. as you can figure.. the big tractor that does the big work.. may not be suitable for the little work.

Brands aside, some peopl eopt to spend their money on a scut / cut ( in your case ), a big mower, and then a used AG tractor. Believe me.. 2 tractors on a farming operation are bettert than 1.

Around here, you can buy old ag tractor from the 70's and 80's for 4000$ give or take. Things like ford 7XXX-8XXX, case 1XXX, MF 1XXX etc.. Even see deutz and big allis models in the 80-150 hp range with good used batwings in the 6000-9000 range in the trader mags.

Whatever you do.. the mower prices will shock you.. course.. if you are haying, that equipment will be a shock too, as you will wank a disc mower or at minimum, a sickle bar mower for the hay portion of the cut.

And bailers go for 'sky's the limit'!

Good luck with whatever you buy. Chinese tractors are $ per hp cheaper than most other domestic units except oldies....

Repairs are repairs. A new 80hp farm pro can break down on the first row just like an old 69' ford 8000... you pays yer money and takes yer chances! Preventitive maint. will go a long way to keep anything you buy happy and healthy. If you buy new.. find a good dealer... etc.

Soundguy
 
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GM,

I went with the KAMA 454-45hp for my 20 ac. Sure it's a bit big but we are guys and like to play.

I have been very pleased with Artrac/BlueChip as my dealer. He is down in AR but delivered to IN.

I had old iron, TO-20. She was nice but......4x4 twice the hp...alll new. I should have done it 5 years ago.

Patrick
 
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Thank you for your input. This is a major but challenging project for my wife and I since the farm house will also be restored, so I appreciate any suggestions you have. So far I like what I've read and heard about the KM554. However, if the cost of machinery to harvest the hay on my own is too prohibitive, I'll continue to sub-contract it out. Question to ponder: Why do 56 year old men buy farms?
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( 45hp for my 20 ac. Sure it's a bit big but )</font>

Big? naaa...


Soundguy
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( However, if the cost of machinery to harvest the hay on my own is too prohibitive, I'll continue to sub-contract it out )</font>

disc mower or sickle bar.. ( or MoCo ) rake/tedder, bailer.. either square or round. ( some old bailers are self powered.. etc. ).

The square bailers, even the non-powered ones aren't too bad behind a heavy large CUT.. 40 and 50 hp range. The round bailers, while they do need the hp.. tend to 'wag the dog' on light tractors.. still large frame CUT's can tote the load. Farmer down the street hays with a ford 4600 and round bailer. Not an ideal setup.. but deffinately adequate. ( I've seen ford 3000 pushed into hay service, and old JD-B's using self powered bailers.. etc. )

It would be nice if you could buy out someone who is currently haying.. perhaps get a big old tractor.. sickle mower rake and bailer for 16000-12000$ and be set to go with some used but working equipment??

Soundguy
 
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Dogfarm,

Hi, wanted you to know that I did get your message. I responded but suspect that you did not receive my reply. Is this correct? Thanks again. g
 

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