Yeah, this stuff is nasty. One idea I found a few years ago was putting a big hand full of the bindweed plant in a flat plastic container, then fill container with a weak roundup solution. Cut a notch in the top of the container so the plant isn't damaged and put the top on to seal the container. I think the plant is absorbing the weak solution and living long enough to transport the poison into the root system. The biggest problem is keeping the bleeping horses from playing field hockey with the container. I finally had to park the tractor over the container.
Herbicide To Kill Residual Wild Grape Vines
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oosik
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Aaah, yes - bindweed. I was so happy to have a little beautiful patch of Morning Glory in the field. That was until the farmer next door told me I better take care of the bindweed because he didn't want it in his field. That was 12-14 years ago and to this day that single patch of bind weed/Morning Glory is still there and hasn't grown one bit. Lucky?? from what I hear - I think so.
My understanding is that bindweed is in the morning glory family, but is a different creature from the thing gardeners call morning glory, even though they're closely related. Also there are two kinds of bindweed. So it's possible you have one of the other things that looks like bindweed, but is really less of a problem. Also bindweed really thrives when there is a drought. You might be in a climate with enough rain to let the native species compete effectively.
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I got a lesson on glyphoshate while fighting 'common reedgrass' (phragmites australis). Turns out it's most effective on rhizomes ('root-shooters') with an early Fall application, when the roots are gathering/storing NRG to survive winter. Adjusting nozzles to droplets vs mist helps application, minimizing wind drift and getting the most from surfactants.
For spraying grape vines and other brushy nuisances, TCP (triclopyr) works best in our MI climate. It too can be applied full strength with brush-in-can or similar to freshly-cut stems with good results when few leaves are present.
Nothing I have gone after has ever been close to being eradicated in a mere year or so, some sections not showing obvious results after the first season of battle. 'Hand' vs 'blanket' spraying has been worth my time investment, if not for the economy to minimize runoff and carryover. Strike 'surgically', plan for the long run, and be patient for results. btw: I had to rethink weed control as a hobby vs a project to bring my expectations in line with reality. :2cents:
For spraying grape vines and other brushy nuisances, TCP (triclopyr) works best in our MI climate. It too can be applied full strength with brush-in-can or similar to freshly-cut stems with good results when few leaves are present.
Nothing I have gone after has ever been close to being eradicated in a mere year or so, some sections not showing obvious results after the first season of battle. 'Hand' vs 'blanket' spraying has been worth my time investment, if not for the economy to minimize runoff and carryover. Strike 'surgically', plan for the long run, and be patient for results. btw: I had to rethink weed control as a hobby vs a project to bring my expectations in line with reality. :2cents:
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I have Bayer Brush Killer Plus on the way from a vender on eBay.
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Bayer Brush Killer Plus Concentrate - 32 oz. ( item: 251346106311 )
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ace10
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24D is kryptonite to grapes.
It's also the most common herbicide used around here to control clover in horse pastures.
I grow grapes, surrounded by horse farms. It's fun.
It's also the most common herbicide used around here to control clover in horse pastures.
I grow grapes, surrounded by horse farms. It's fun.
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There is a blended herbicide on the market that mixes 2,4-D & 3,5,6-T (Triclopyr) that works on most any broadleaf. Can't recall the tradename offhand, and you can mix it yourself anyway.
The commercial guys use this. btw, 3,5,6-T is the successor to 2,4,5-T (tradename: Silvex) which was blended with 2,4-D to create 'agent orange' to defoliate Vietnam. the 'orange' was attributed by the miltary to the color of the drums it was supplied in.
Silvex was the bad actor that had the highly carcinogenetic byproduct dioxin in it - it also persists in the environment. Triclopyr is almost as effective, contains no dioxin, and has a reasonable biodegradation life (weeks, not years).
The commercial guys use this. btw, 3,5,6-T is the successor to 2,4,5-T (tradename: Silvex) which was blended with 2,4-D to create 'agent orange' to defoliate Vietnam. the 'orange' was attributed by the miltary to the color of the drums it was supplied in.
Silvex was the bad actor that had the highly carcinogenetic byproduct dioxin in it - it also persists in the environment. Triclopyr is almost as effective, contains no dioxin, and has a reasonable biodegradation life (weeks, not years).