Here we go again

[dummy]

Personal Responsibility?? An idealistic approach, don't you think? Why should anyone be responsible for themselves when they can blame anyone and everyone else? Nothing in their lives is a direct result of what they have done. Some of the statements I've heard, "Work, nah, don't feel like it, I'll wait for my government check to come in. The way I was raised was wrong, my mom stayed home and my dad worked too much (or vice versa) and both of them were way too strict. My parents never did anything for me except to feed, clothe and house me. Heck, I didn't even get a new car when I got my drivers license. The only reason I'm in jail is because my dad's second wife doesn't like me (from a 40 year old guy that's been in and out since he was 19)." And the list goes on. So you see Harv, it's not my fault this is a long post, it's TBN's for having the forum./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

 

[dmccarty]

ejb,

Bgott may also have heard my retelling of the untold McD
coffee story.

This was reported in the Wall Street Journal a few years ago.

The quick story is that McD's has a free refill policy on
coffee. So to save a few cents they make the coffee to
hot to drink quickly. I was burned by the coffee a few
years ago because of this by the way. There is NO WAY
anyone can drink this coffee. McDs has had many complaints
and lawsuits on the issue but continued to keep the coffee
to hot. JUST TO SAVE A REFILL OR TWO.

McD's pattern of behavior is what cost them 6 Million. I have
heard since then that they still have the coffee to hot. McD's
figures its much cheaper to have a few burned people and
lawsuits than than to lower the temp......

For once the Boob Tube was correct... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Later...
Dan

 

[McLuen]

Harv,
I am not a guy that thinks lawyers are all bad or the problem.
There are good lawyers, and I use them when my business needs help with legal issues. I do think the idea of personal responsibility is eroding, and that is not good for our country.
I also feel very strongly that a lawyer with any integrity would not take this case. IMHO.

 

[Ozarker]

Do you really beleive that good doctors are good only becasue of the threat of being sued? That is strange.

No Harv, it won't. Ultra high insurance is spread out among the good as well as the bad doctors. It makes all doctors raise rates to meet the costs and hurts John Q public across the board. The proper solution for bad doctors is for the governing body to take action to remove their ability to practice.

You don't protect the public by simply making bad doctors pay more to continue in practice. That is sort of like giving a drivers liscense to someone after his 4th or 5th DWI. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

According to the article posted, the currennt system doesn't seem to be doing much to protect people in Texas.

 

[bgott]

Thinking about it I did hear it from you. Sorry I didn't remember so I could give the proper credit where it was due. My memory is kind of funny that way. I can remember just enough of a lot of things to go on a search to find the rest of the story if it's important. Einstein himself said it was a waste of time to memorize stuff you could look up. And before fifty of y'all post to keep me from having any delusions, I realize I'm not Einstein! /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif

 

[crown]

Personal responsibility? That sounds good unfortantly it is my experience that people love to blame someone or something for all the mishaps that occur in their lives.
We all make choices we need to live with them not necessarly like them but live with them ah yes personal responsibility would be a welcome idealism (Maybe one day).

 

[dmccarty]

Bgott,

No need for a sorry! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif What I *** WANTED *** to say
was the I wrote up a big long post about McDs awhile ago.
It might be interesting to go search for the post. I don't
think I was even remotely close to having that come across
in what I said! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Now that bit about Einstein and memorization is pretty good.
It certainly is true. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif And TBN is one heck of a good
database! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Later,
Dan

 

[Frank_Mulligan]

I really can't comprehend much of a 'fix' for our current judicial system. In my opinion the whole mess is caused by people blaming others for their own ignorance or errors. We do need a system protecting us from negligence, either from a product or an individual, that also disallows fivilous lawsuits. I've written to my representatives and congressmen about the need for tort reform. I've heard nothing from them./w3tcompact/icons/hmm.gif

I think 'common sense' should be a viable defense for some of these companies. Everybody knows coffee is hot! Everybody knows smoking is harmful to your health! Everybody knows fast food is full of fats and salts! If you dont, you admit you are an idiot, and you deserve to revisit grades 1 through 8.

Here's my list of what is wrong with the tobacco litigation:

-Cigarettes were not popular until WWI, when the US army issued them to the soldiers. Should the government shoulder some blame?

-Cigarettes have had a product warning on them for years now, and is one of the only products that has such a prominent warning, if any at all.

-The government currently, and has done so for the last several years, makes more money off of taxes on the smokes than the manufacturer does.

-The human body can pick up disease, cancer or otherwise, from any number of sources. Proving that a particular product caused a disease in a particular individual seems rather like an implied notion. This thereby instantiates the point that everyone knows smoking is bad for one's health.

-Since everyone knows smoking is bad, doing so, you run the risks, and should be responsible for your own actions. They don't call them 'coffin nails' for no reason.

-Tobacco State settlements are in large, NOT going towards health programs or anti-smoking programs. The States would probably go bankrupt if they lost the tax revenue.

I could go on and on, but even I'm getting tired of reading my post!/w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif

Finally, anyone who thinks this is punishing some old company CEO's is being foolish. The company's either go out of business, or raise their prices. In the end, it is YOU, the consumer, who pays for these lawsuits whose sole purpose is to make lawyers rich.