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[farmboy12]

Okay. Please, I will mention things that we do that are totally wrong and should not be followed. Please, keep the comments related to the story. I know what we do is wrong.

I was moving the Cub Cadet 1450 that hasn't run for some time and is hydrostatic. Therefore, we can't manually push it very far with less that 2-3 people. So, I got a chain to tow it with the NH TC30. I realized pretty quick that I had a piece of connection wrong. So, I did something we do with all other hydros, but never with this NH, I was standing on the side of the tractor, lowest RPM, low range, and pressed slightly on the back pedal. Well, when I went to let pedal go, I remembered that the hydro on the TC30 sticks, and before I could fix it, WHAM!! It hit the cub cadet and drove itself right up with a wheel on each fender, but it kept spinning. I finally got to the forward pedal and drove it off. That little CC only broke a tail light!! I proceeded the tow. I couldn't do too much about it, knowing Pop might come down the driveway any minute.

Well, my heart was still racing a minute or two later! Be careful out there!!


Kyle

 

[J_J]

Okay. Please, I will mention things that we do that are totally wrong and should not be followed. Please, keep the comments related to the story. I know what we do is wrong.

I was moving the Cub Cadet 1450 that hasn't run for some time and is hydrostatic. Therefore, we can't manually push it very far with less that 2-3 people. So, I got a chain to tow it with the NH TC30. I realized pretty quick that I had a piece of connection wrong. So, I did something we do with all other hydros, but never with this NH, I was standing on the side of the tractor, lowest RPM, low range, and pressed slightly on the back pedal. Well, when I went to let pedal go, I remembered that the hydro on the TC30 sticks, and before I could fix it, WHAM!! It hit the cub cadet and drove itself right up with a wheel on each fender, but it kept spinning. I finally got to the forward pedal and drove it off. That little CC only broke a tail light!! I proceeded the tow. I couldn't do too much about it, knowing Pop might come down the driveway any minute.

Well, my heart was still racing a minute or two later! Be careful out there!!


Kyle

Just some advice, you should not push or tow a hydrostatic machine. There is usually a lever that you push or pull to release something so it can roll very slow and not for a long distance. Mine jammed up just by getting it off the truck.

 

[Ductape]

All the Cubs I've seen have a drive release on the back of the tractor. Sort of a rod sticking out the back, just above where you hook a cart to the back. The rod sticks out of a keyhole shaped hole. Pull the rod out and down, the keyhole shape holds it out.

J J is right..... you shouldn't tow them any distance without disconnecting the drive. Damage will result.

 

[Rara Avis]

Time to move this thread from safety to Cub Cadet Hydrostatic Transmission Repair...

 

[JB4310]

Back to the safety no no's, I'm guilty, I move my e hydro machine a few inches one way or another from the ground on the side of the machine, have to put one hand on the seat to satisfy seat safety and one hand on one of the pedals.

Also don't turn off the engine and set parking brake every time I hop off for a second. I'm bad

Regarding Cubs, I use to walk along next to my little hydro drive CC with lever on the dash

JB.

 

[greenmule]

Well,you learned another lesson! Right up there with that bunk bed lesson.

 

[jimmyj]

Glad you are OK and no more serious damage was done. Thanks for sharing, I certainly learned from the story and JJ's comments.

 

[farmboy12]

Yea, JB, this is a dash drive hydro. I do the same thing.

JJ-
I know what you're saying. But when there is no access to a loader, and no one else there, you gotta do what you gotta do. It's fine now. It freed up during the tow. I got it started for about 10 seconds and drove it before it cut off. So the tranny is fine.


Kyle

 

[x595]

Regarding Cubs, I use to walk along next to my little hydro drive CC with lever on the dash JB.

My Dad had a JD 185 with the hydro lever on the fender years ago and got it
stuck next to the lake and there's a steep banked creek about 30' from the
lake , well he got off , moved the hydro lever to about half speed and began
pushing , it got unstuck and while dragging him he tried to move the lever to
neutral , he had to let go as it went down the bank and into the creek ...


Later,x595

 

[jas67]

Regarding towing hydrostatic L&G tractors, my G1800 doesn't have a release, so no towing with the wheels down -- seems like a dumb design.

My solution was put a ball mount into my 3pt hitch receiver (attached to my B7100HST) with no ball on it, and pin that to the sleeve hitch on the G1800, and then lift the back end of the G1800 with the 3PH and proceed to tow it backwards with the rear end off the ground.

Now, with hydrostatic tractors with multiple ranges, it is easy -- just put it in neutral.

 

[J_J]

Now, with hydrostatic tractors with multiple ranges, it is easy -- just put it in neutral.

jas67,

Is that what your manual says. Towing a hydrostatic transmission that the Power-Tracs use requires one to turn a screw to open the relief valves so the fluid from the wheel motors now acting as a pump, can recirculate through the pump and wheel motors,,and only for short distances. The hydro system we use is closed loop for the drive circuit. I know my Wheel Horse mower is jammed up because of someone pushing it.

 

[2manyrocks]

Lift the back wheels off the ground with your three point hitch and go slowly.

 

[farmboy12]

Lift the back wheels off the ground with your three point hitch and go slowly.

I tried doing that but couldn't find a safe mthod.


Kyle

 

[jas67]

Lift the back wheels off the ground with your three point hitch and go slowly.

That is what I did with my G1800.

 

[jas67]

Now, with hydrostatic tractors with multiple ranges, it is easy -- just put it in neutral.

jas67,

Is that what your manual says. Towing a hydrostatic transmission that the Power-Tracs use requires one to turn a screw to open the relief valves so the fluid from the wheel motors now acting as a pump, can recirculate through the pump and wheel motors,,and only for short distances. The hydro system we use is closed loop for the drive circuit. I know my Wheel Horse mower is jammed up because of someone pushing it.

JJ,

The manual for the G1800 says to not tow it at all. I don't remember seeing anything about towing in the B7100 manual, but I know it rolls real easily by hand when in neutral.

Are the Power-trac's hydrostatic, or hydraulic drive? I thought they had a hydraulic motor per wheel?

 

[J_J]

JJ,

The manual for the G1800 says to not tow it at all. I don't remember seeing anything about towing in the B7100 manual, but I know it rolls real easily by hand when in neutral.

Are the Power-trac's hydrostatic, or hydraulic drive? I thought they had a hydraulic motor per wheel?

Yes, the Power-Trac's are all hydraulic , variable speed hyd pump and a wheel moter on each wheel. I think in general, if it's not gear, then it's hydraulic or electric.

 

[Johndeere3720]

I only push my L118 deere out of the shed to start it and push the 2210 to get closer or further from the implement. I have NEVER used the hydro pedle on my dads 3720 when on the ground since the seat will detect your not there and shut off the engine. And it isnt safe.

 

[farmboy12]

I only push my L118 deere out of the shed to start it and push the 2210 to get closer or further from the implement. I have NEVER used the hydro pedle on my dads 3720 when on the ground since the seat will detect your not there and shut off the engine. And it isnt safe.

You can unhook the seat thingy.


Kyle

 

[Midsouth]

Be careful farmboy talking like that will get the safety police on you There is already a post it parts/repairs about cutting the ROPS and welding hinges on it. They have not found it yet But i'm sure they will shortly. Have fun and be safe.

 

[hr3]

Soo... What did Pops say when he saw it??? the damage that is..