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   / Hi boys keep it neat and tidy Stihl or Husqvarna Chansaws #111  
I'm going to write my elected officials today urging them to draft new legislation where you have to show your pro wood cutting card before buying a top handle saw. The governments job is to protects us and keep us safe from harm :D It's for your own well being comrade.
 
   / Hi boys keep it neat and tidy Stihl or Husqvarna Chansaws #112  
WRONG! Try reading the opening paragraph of the first page of the owner's manual from Stihl, the manufacturer of the 192T. Here is the file:
http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/...192-t-192-tc-chain-saw-instruction-manual.pdf
It states, regarding the saw: (CAPS are added by me), this manual contains operating and safety instructions for ALL Stihl PROFESSIONAL TREE SERVICE CHAINSAWS. ...Professional tree service saws are designed especially for in-tree maintenance, tree surgery and other cutting work in confined spaces such as a lift-bucket.
Also refer to page 3 where it details that top handle saws are only to be used by specially trained individuals, and all other work at ground level should be done with saws other than top handles. There are additional details on use and safety by the manufacturer of this model PRO saw.

Funny thing is, that I basically agree with you about the top handle saw thing. They should only be used by pros. When you use one with one hand, your other hand isn't there to engage the chain brake.

I agree with the others, though pro grade saws (not counting top handle) are just designed for more intensive use. Nothing more or less dangerous about a ms260 than an ms390.
 
   / Hi boys keep it neat and tidy Stihl or Husqvarna Chansaws #113  
Funny thing is, that I basically agree with you about the top handle saw thing. They should only be used by pros. When you use one with one hand, your other hand isn't there to engage the chain brake.

I agree with the others, though pro grade saws (not counting top handle) are just designed for more intensive use. Nothing more or less dangerous about a ms260 than an ms390.
How does one get a professional card to be able to use a top handle? :D What are the requirements to be a pro? Is there a chainsaw university one must attend?
 
   / Hi boys keep it neat and tidy Stihl or Husqvarna Chansaws #114  
I did take a coarse thru a Forestry program I'm in, cost me 350.00 bucks. So I'm a Pro now??
 
   / Hi boys keep it neat and tidy Stihl or Husqvarna Chansaws #115  
I did take a coarse thru a Forestry program I'm in, cost me 350.00 bucks. So I'm a Pro now??

We'll need to see some credentials before we can make a decision.
 
   / Hi boys keep it neat and tidy Stihl or Husqvarna Chansaws #116  
We'll need to see some credentials before we can make a decision.

I still have the receipt for tax purposes. But that will just show I'm 350 bucks poorer.:(
 
   / Hi boys keep it neat and tidy Stihl or Husqvarna Chansaws #117  
How does one get a professional card to be able to use a top handle? :D What are the requirements to be a pro? Is there a chainsaw university one must attend?

Yeah, good question. I guess in this case I think that the user ought to at least read the appropriate warnings, be shown some pics of what happens when using them wrong, and be able to explain why they are dangerous.

That'd satisfy me.
 
   / Hi boys keep it neat and tidy Stihl or Husqvarna Chansaws #118  
Yeah, good question. I guess in this case I think that the user ought to at least read the appropriate warnings, be shown some pics of what happens when using them wrong, and be able to explain why they are dangerous.

That'd satisfy me.

Well in that case I wanna fly the space shuttle! Wait, I think I may be too late. :laughing:
 
   / Hi boys keep it neat and tidy Stihl or Husqvarna Chansaws #119  
Taking a forestry course is a good thing and can teach even seasoned professionals proper techniques that are up to date and can enhance one's skills and overall safety when working in the woods/farm/yard, etc. These courses don't turn the average saw jockey into a pro however. Pros are once again, for those who haven't been paying close attention, those who have been trained to work as climbers, arborists, those who went to places like Paul Smiths or elsewhere to study to become trained professional arborists, and work daily in trees doing tree surgery, or are using bucket trucks to top out, lower or trim out dead wood from trees near power lines, etc.
Basically those who make a full time living climbing trees, working with crane trucks, bucket trucks, etc.
One can argue and joke forever about pro or pro grade and similar semantics; reality is top handle saws are for use by pros in trees, not for homeowners or other non-pro on the ground.
Joke all you want about government intrusion; and realize the same humorists if hurt by a tool of any kind are the first to bring suit against everyone within driving distance when they are the one who gets injured. Then it's no longer funny and somebody has to pay for their poor judgement.

BTW, I signed up for one of the forestry courses this summer but had to postpone until next time they are offered. I want to refresh my skills and see what new/updated techniques are available to those who work in the woods occasionally, as I do now. I believe they are 5 part courses IIRC.

What was the name of the course you took, Murphy?
 
   / Hi boys keep it neat and tidy Stihl or Husqvarna Chansaws #120  
Taking a forestry course is a good thing and can teach even seasoned professionals proper techniques that are up to date and can enhance one's skills and overall safety when working in the woods/farm/yard, etc. These courses don't turn the average saw jockey into a pro however. Pros are once again, for those who haven't been paying close attention, those who have been trained to work as climbers, arborists, those who went to places like Paul Smiths or elsewhere to study to become trained professional arborists, and work daily in trees doing tree surgery, or are using bucket trucks to top out, lower or trim out dead wood from trees near power lines, etc.
Basically those who make a full time living climbing trees, working with crane trucks, bucket trucks, etc.
One can argue and joke forever about pro or pro grade and similar semantics; reality is top handle saws are for use by pros in trees, not for homeowners or other non-pro on the ground.
Joke all you want about government intrusion; and realize the same humorists if hurt by a tool of any kind are the first to bring suit against everyone within driving distance when they are the one who gets injured. Then it's no longer funny and somebody has to pay for their poor judgement.

BTW, I signed up for one of the forestry courses this summer but had to postpone until next time they are offered. I want to refresh my skills and see what new/updated techniques are available to those who work in the woods occasionally, as I do now. I believe they are 5 part courses IIRC.

What was the name of the course you took, Murphy?

What pro credentials do you have? What certifications do you carry to deem you a pro?
 

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