Hobart 230

   / Hobart 230 #11  
I love it when you Mig guys research and find the facts. Mainly on what Miller, Hobart and others try to feed the public. If Miller says they are selling a 210 amp machine..95% of America buys it with the mindset that they are buying a 210 amp machine not knowing that they are not. The Stick Welder guys don't seem have this issue because Stick units are rated correctly. Don't get me wrong I am not a Stick Welder..

:confused::confused: Huh???

I'm confused. 211's a model number, not an amperage rating. Did you think that the 210 and 211 were 210 amp welders? I'm not sure about the 210 because I never really looked at it, but the 211 spec sheet says "150 A at 23.5VDC, 30% Duty Cycle (230V)" right on the top of the spec sheet.
 
   / Hobart 230 #12  
Also the Millermatic 211 Auto-Set with MVP is a good feature packed welder in the 200 amp range.

My mistake. :ashamed: Correct amp range should read:

150 Amps at 23.5 VDC, 30% duty cycle (230 V)
90 Amps at 20 VDC, 20% duty cylce (120 V)
 
   / Hobart 230 #13  
A miller 210/211 is a machine with a welding range of 30 amps - 210 amps. The duty cycle chart is giving you just that, duty cycle and not welding output. Once you start welding at the machines maximum output 140amps on 110 or 210 amps on 220 your duty cycle dips even farther. Don't quote me but at maximum output your duty cycle is at 10 percent.

As well the Hobart 210 and Miller 211, are the same machine. You loose the auto set but keep the Multi voltage plug.

Darrel
 
   / Hobart 230 #14  
are you talking about the stickmate AC235XL ? I have one from TSC.. just burned 5# of rod with it today and yesterday. it will weld up to 1/2 without blinking if you get the right rod, turn her up and have a lil practice.

I mostly use 1/8 electrodes in 6011 and 6013, and occasional 3/32 if I do stuff like 3/16 or thinner.

soundguy


So how are the Hobart 230 welders?

I am new to welding, I would like to have a welder that i can pretty much do some fabrication, nothing big, but i want to be able to weld metal up to 3/8 inch.

I see these at TSC and thought about picking one up. I see there is a 210 as well. I guess what i am looking for some advice as to what to pick up and what else would i need? I guess i would need a tank for whatever gas you have to use.

Also what are the power requirements for these welders? Do i just need a standard 220 outlet?

Anyway any help would be great.
 

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