WH401
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Gator6x4 said:
That I understand, he never should've had both of his kids on there in the first place. One probably wouldn't be a problem, but I totally agree with your point of the article.
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That I understand, he never should've had both of his kids on there in the first place. One probably wouldn't be a problem, but I totally agree with your point of the article.
asylum575
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My 4 year old is always trying to get me to let him ride along. Luckily the noise bothers him. Sometimes I rather him with me instead of walking around. He wants to be around, but I'm afraid of running into him. Since he doesn't like loud noises, I run my chipper and the tractor. This keeps him in. I give my wife instructions to keep an eye on him inside.
Last week, I removed my backhoe. While I was fiddling with the pins he was behind me walking from side to side, under the backhoe. It's just tough keeping him where I can see him. I enjoy the time with him, since I work so many hours, but you gotta think safety first.
Last week, I removed my backhoe. While I was fiddling with the pins he was behind me walking from side to side, under the backhoe. It's just tough keeping him where I can see him. I enjoy the time with him, since I work so many hours, but you gotta think safety first.
PAB_OH
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Wow, some of you people never quit do you? Won't be happy until everyone believes and acts as you do.
I've noticed a lot of this coming out of the NE section and some from the left coast.
Nothing he was doing was anywhere near as dangerous as half the morons yapping on their cell phone sucking down lattes with their kid in the back seat I see every morning on my way to work.
Are there stupid people out there who put their kids in harms way around heavy equipment? Yup, you bet. Nothing you can do about it though unless you want to passa law making it illegal to be stupid. We're going to need way more jails boys and girls...
It was good for a chuckle though.
I've noticed a lot of this coming out of the NE section and some from the left coast.
Nothing he was doing was anywhere near as dangerous as half the morons yapping on their cell phone sucking down lattes with their kid in the back seat I see every morning on my way to work.
Are there stupid people out there who put their kids in harms way around heavy equipment? Yup, you bet. Nothing you can do about it though unless you want to passa law making it illegal to be stupid. We're going to need way more jails boys and girls...
It was good for a chuckle though.
mjncad
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PAB_OH said:
No argument from me on this cell phone comment. I tried driving and yakking on a cell phone a couple of times and it scared the crap out of me. So I park and talk if I need to make a phone call. If it rings while I'm driving, I ignore it until I can pull over and talk safely after I see the Caller ID.
I remember as a kid I went with the neighbors to a sandy dry creek and his son and I rode on the back bumper step of a 60's vintage Toyota Land Cruiser. We stood on the bumper and held onto the roof mounted cargo rack. It was fun at the time; but recalling some of the hills we climbed, it was a good thing the vehicle didn't roll back over us.
I also remember as a kid how some of my elementary school classmates would sneak up behind a moving car in winter, grab hold of the bumper and hitch a ride on the icy streets. That one I never tried as it looked way too dangerous for me to try.
Are kids curious about tractors and other stuff? Sure they are and that's great; but since CUT's and lawn tractors don't have buddy seats, leave the kids off the rig until they have proven they are emotionally mature and physically capable of operating the tractor safely. Maybe dummy dad in the videos and my former nutty neighbor should fabricate buddy seats to teach their children how to operate the machine.
When I used to mow weeds in the neighborhood, I told people I wear hearing protection and unless you clearly mark valve boxes, PVC pipes, etc; I won't be responsible for damaging them if I hit them with the brush cutter. To me, PVC and tumbleweeds sound about the same being thrashed to bits. I also told neighbors to keep their children and pets inside or I wouldn't mow. I also told the adults if they needed to talk to me while I was mowing that they need to approach from the left-front or right-front so I would see them.
Now have I done modifications to my tractors that disable some safety equipment? Sure; but we have no kids and pets and I take full responsibility for my actions of removing or disabling the lawyer inspired items.
BlacknTan
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I believe in safety, particularly for young children, but there has to be good old fashioned common sense involved also.
I'm not a bigh fan of the government telling me what's good for me or my family. I will make those decisions for myself, law or no law!
Our decisions for making thing so safe that they're virtually "idiot proof", and OSHA's blind adherence to them, is a big part of what has driven the manufacturing base of this country to other shores, where these headaches don't exist.
I'm not a proponent of stupid behavior or accidents, just common sense and the right to make one's own decisions for one's own well being.
I'm not a bigh fan of the government telling me what's good for me or my family. I will make those decisions for myself, law or no law!
Our decisions for making thing so safe that they're virtually "idiot proof", and OSHA's blind adherence to them, is a big part of what has driven the manufacturing base of this country to other shores, where these headaches don't exist.
I'm not a proponent of stupid behavior or accidents, just common sense and the right to make one's own decisions for one's own well being.
Blagadan
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I have a feeling this thread is going to go on for quite a while.......
Heres the flip side of being over cautious with your kids.... My neighbor is the quintessential safety police officer. He will not let his children within 100yds of a running tractor or any machinery..... or for that matter - ladders, ponds, even sand for some strange reason (i think it has to do with cats peeing on it??). He used to shout abuse at them if they went anywhere close. He eventually "trained them" and they got the message... "dad gets angry with us if we go out when he's working". So much so, now they are older (mid-late teens), they dont want anything to do with anything that happens outside the door of the house. DIY, tractors, machinery, or anything that their dad does when he is out on his property working...
Sorry folks, but I find that a bit sad for the father. His kids spent very little time with him because he'd shout at them if they did wrong. He approached it all wrong imho. Instead of showing the dangers and teaching them, his automatic Safety reaction was to tell them to "get inside" or "go away"..
I also admit, I followed his lead in the beginning. Having read all the safety police information on all the forums I have been a member over the years, I too was super cautious with my first born son. Now he's older, NO WAY can I get him to come out and help me. He wont even sit in the tractor when its turned off for fear it might roll away! ALL MY FAULT. I would scold him if he climbed up on anything for fear he would get hurt. He is now a very overcautious individual.
My second born (daughter) on the other hand, I was much more relaxed with her. I saw the error of my ways with my son and took more time with my daughter. Explaining the dangers to her and showing HOW things can hurt her. She spends more time with me outdoors when I am working at home and will be the first to get stuck in helping me.
I dont run the mower blades with her on the lawn mower but I do give her a ride on the mower or tractor when I get the chance. My son takes off when he hears the engines turned on, would not even entertain the thought of riding on the tractor with his dad.
It is my belief that she has a far superior sense of safety awareness over my son who is simply afraid of anything mechanical.
Teach them well folks......
Heres the flip side of being over cautious with your kids.... My neighbor is the quintessential safety police officer. He will not let his children within 100yds of a running tractor or any machinery..... or for that matter - ladders, ponds, even sand for some strange reason (i think it has to do with cats peeing on it??). He used to shout abuse at them if they went anywhere close. He eventually "trained them" and they got the message... "dad gets angry with us if we go out when he's working". So much so, now they are older (mid-late teens), they dont want anything to do with anything that happens outside the door of the house. DIY, tractors, machinery, or anything that their dad does when he is out on his property working...
Sorry folks, but I find that a bit sad for the father. His kids spent very little time with him because he'd shout at them if they did wrong. He approached it all wrong imho. Instead of showing the dangers and teaching them, his automatic Safety reaction was to tell them to "get inside" or "go away"..
I also admit, I followed his lead in the beginning. Having read all the safety police information on all the forums I have been a member over the years, I too was super cautious with my first born son. Now he's older, NO WAY can I get him to come out and help me. He wont even sit in the tractor when its turned off for fear it might roll away! ALL MY FAULT. I would scold him if he climbed up on anything for fear he would get hurt. He is now a very overcautious individual.
My second born (daughter) on the other hand, I was much more relaxed with her. I saw the error of my ways with my son and took more time with my daughter. Explaining the dangers to her and showing HOW things can hurt her. She spends more time with me outdoors when I am working at home and will be the first to get stuck in helping me.
I dont run the mower blades with her on the lawn mower but I do give her a ride on the mower or tractor when I get the chance. My son takes off when he hears the engines turned on, would not even entertain the thought of riding on the tractor with his dad.
It is my belief that she has a far superior sense of safety awareness over my son who is simply afraid of anything mechanical.
Teach them well folks......
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Blagadan - it may not be all your fault your first-born is more cautious. My grandkids are just like that and were treated identically as far as I can tell. The younger one, a girl, was born bold and stayed that way, while her brother looks around before he jumps in. It ain't all nurture, some is just plain how a person is wired at the factory.
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my sister in law mows the lawn on the articulated Husqvarna riding mower.
she takes 3 persons: first her 2 year old boy, and she's pregnant:
With the little boy in front of her, the kid has just an inch to spare between her and the steering wheel. As long as she's holding the steering wheel with 2 hands, the kid has nowhere to go and its safer than letting the little guy run loose in the garden where she's mowing, or have him run around on the farmyard with all its dangers.
she takes 3 persons: first her 2 year old boy, and she's pregnant:
With the little boy in front of her, the kid has just an inch to spare between her and the steering wheel. As long as she's holding the steering wheel with 2 hands, the kid has nowhere to go and its safer than letting the little guy run loose in the garden where she's mowing, or have him run around on the farmyard with all its dangers.
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I guess being brought up on a farm made my grandpa and father idiots also(NOT).I was always on tractors,trucks and farm machinery since I was old enough to walk,they taught me saftey and respect,believe it or not I still have all my fingers and toes(LOL).I have had my kids and grand kids on my Tractors,mowers,four wheelers,and UTV,s since ages of 5years old with me present at all times.Safety first in my book.coobie
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