Hooking up PTO male end?

[PineRidge]

<font color="blue"> How about the air powered grease guns, seems like a great idea, you can get one for $20 or so. Anybody using one, is there a down side?

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Curt I picked one up at Harbor Frieight and it works pretty slick. The only downside that I have noticed is when using a manual grease gun you can feel the grease being injected through the tension on the handle that you pump. There is no feel to a air grease gun and the sound is the same if it's pumping grease or air. The only way to check is to shoot a bit of grease on a paper towel from time to time so that you know it still has grease in the tube.. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[jinman]

Aligning the splines on a NH Class III PTO can be a real challenge if you have an implement that is hard to rotate or the blades are jammed against the ground or something else. The TC40 (gear and hydro) have a hydraulically engaged clutch and brake. That means the PTO brakes and locks in less than 3 seconds when you disengage it. I've never found a place I could put the handle to get it to stay released. The overrunning clutch like Murph suggested will solve that problem, but you'll lose the safety of the PTO brake function. I've never had to use a screwdriver in the U-joint on my rotary cutter, but I did use one on my chipper-shredder. It's really your choice which method to use. The overrunning clutch is just something else to buy and install when you're probably already tired of spending money on a tractor for awhile. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

One other thing. When you engage the PTO with an implement attached. I suggest you don't follow the instructions in the Owner's Manual. If you don't have a slip clutch, you could pop a shear-bolt and you'll spend more frustrating time replacing you first sheared pin before you ever get started. I always put the engine at idle and then engage my PTO lever very slowly until the PTO shaft just begins to turn. Let the implement come up to speed (low speed). Then fully engage the PTO. Now, bring the engine up to PTO speed.

When you get ready to disengage the PTO, bring the engine to idle before disengaging the PTO. On smaller implements with less mass than a rotary cutter, this is not as critical, but on a rotary cutter, there have been forum members here who have had damage to their clutch and brakes because they disengaged 6' or 7' rotary cutters at full speed and the PTO brake just could not take the stress. This problem is also eliminated with the PTO overrun adapter (works like a ratchet).

We've all had the PTO learning curve, so feel free to ask more questions.

 

[mikim]

That's exactly how I do it ... 'course I couldn't explain it as well. You are so good at written instructions. You really outta try to earn a living at it - get into a training career of some kind .... oh I dunno .... maybe aviation? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[jinman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You really outta try to earn a living at it - get into a training career of some kind .... oh I dunno .... maybe aviation? )</font>

You weather guys are so funny! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Send some rain up this way, would you...please. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[Soundguy]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I always put the engine at idle and then engage my PTO lever very slowly )</font>
I do the same on my 1920.. engage pto with dual clutch all the way down.. rpm it idle warm up.. less than 1k.. say 800.. slowly let clutch out and get pto spinning.. then throttle up..

Seems much smoother.

Soundguy

 

[mikim]

yer on the list for tomorrow Jim -- I have to do a turn-around to Ft Worthless for 2 meetings - probably be a good guarantee that'll rain all the way. Leave home at 4a.m. - probably won't get back til 8 or 9 .. long day. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[VaTractorGirl]

Thanks Jinman, Just wish we had read this post before we sheared off the bolt before we had even mowed the first blade of grass. You guys, my husband tried the screwdriver technique to no avail. Is there a certain place that the pto lever should be when trying this?

I will let everyone know this, the finish mower we were trying to hook up was the homier 5ft for the $599. When my husband bought it I thought (oh he wouldn't let me buy the cheap tractor but now he is putting the cheap implements with it) But after shearing that first bolt and learning quick about taking it slowly up to speed, he mowed the front yard (what we have of one) with no problem.

I have been running around like a crazy women trying to get all of my other things done so I can do something with the tractor, but I had to do my regular chores first, I just couldn't let my 2 year old stay stuck to the kitchen floor because someone spilled the koolaid and didn't clean it up now could I? /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif My daughter also thought she deserved clean clothes to wear so, That's right I have been doing the mom thing. It took me a day and a half but this afternoon I got to get on that thing!

I ended up mowing the whole 5 acres with the finish mower and it didn't give me a lick of trouble. I did raise it up just a tad from normal mowing height because this area hadn't been touched since early fall last year and that was with a bush hog. So knock on wood about this cheap finish mower but I say if it can mow through that, I should have no problems with just a nice lawn.

But I just wanted to get that done so I could do what I really want and that is hook up that boxblade and start leveling and fixing these drainage problems of mine. Hopefully it will be easier to hook up than the mower /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[jinman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Just wish we had read this post before we sheared off the bolt )</font>

Sorry about not posting sooner. I had a 24hr bug and was out of it for two days.

The good thing is the shear bolt snapped and also you learned the awesome torque available from that TC40.

As you use your mower, it may loosen up and become easier to turn the PTO shaft. Also, if you hook the 3PH up completely, you can lift the mower, reach under, and rotate the center blade. As long as the PTO isn't hooked up, there's very little chance of anything bad happening. If your blades are very sharp, use a rag as a grip in addition to gloves. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[DocHeb]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Also, if you hook the 3PH up completely, you can lift the mower, reach under, and rotate the center blade.)</font>

Of course, as Jim is well aware and has warned before - never trust the 3 Point to hold up an implement so you can work under it. As Jim suggested, just reaching would probably be OK, but don't crawl under without independent support of the attachment.

 

[markie61]

For future removal and reattachement:

I've found that splines line up perfectly if the implement I am putting back on is the very last PTO attachment that was used. For instance, I mow then use the rake. When I put the mower back on the splines are lined up.

Mark