Horrible News. 3 brothers die.

[Jstpssng]

There is a huge amount of awareness of this. Compare it to electricity - how many of us have been “hit” by 120v? Not bad right- but did you know that 120v kills more than all other voltages combined? “But it doesn’t seem bad - never happened to me - I’m always careful”. Would “more awareness” really help given all the awareness campaigns and warnings already out there?

I don’t KNOW what happened here but all the training says if one goes down you STAY OUT until professionals arrive. Yeah right - that’s my brother in there! I can’t let him lie on the floor, I’ll just go in and ….

That is an all too frequent scenario. One man passes out so another goes after him, and succumbs to the same fumes.

 

[two_bit_score]

And that’s when it all hits the fan.

 

[stuckmotor]

Fair Oaks Farm in NW Indiana has something like 40,000 dairy cows. They capture all of the methane from the manure in a digester and use the methane to not only power their fleet of semi's, tractors, etc., but to generate all of their electricity and sell power to the grid.

Moss,
Fair Oaks Farm is probably the one I read about. It's been a while.

 

[Oaktree]

I had not heard of manure pits until seeing this thread. I grew up around small farms and manure was piled on the ground and flipped over as needed with a tractor.

Same here. Any farms here that used liquified manure had a lined outside artificial pond as opposed to a huge cement cistern.
Nasty way to die.

I thought manure pits were common. Every dairy I ever went to had a line of grates on the floor behind the cows in the milking stations. The manure/urine goes on the floor and into the grates, then a conveyor of sorts moves it all to the end where it goes to pits. When the pit gets full, it's pumped into a spreader tanker type machine and taken to the fields.

I guess it depends on the size of the operation. No farms as huge as you describe in my part of the country.

 

[cqaigy2]

So tragic. It's a disaster for that family both emotionally and financially.

This does seem to happen on a too regular basis.

 

[MossRoad]

Same here. Any farms here that used liquified manure had a lined outside artificial pond as opposed to a huge cement cistern.
Nasty way to die.

I guess it depends on the size of the operation. No farms as huge as you describe in my part of the country.

While I showed the large ones, the one's I'm familiar with are small, under 100 cow dairies. They have the grate on the floor just behind the cows. Poop goes in and a conveyor moves it along to a pit at the end of the barn.

 

[MossRoad]

I know several roofers that have fallen and become disabled. Were they wearing a safety harness? No. Are they cheap and affordable? Yep. Old habits die hard (no pun intended).

I was watching some guys install fall protection systems on roofs this summer. None of them were wearing any fall protection. Just seemed bizarre.

 

[Oaktree]

I know several roofers that have fallen and become disabled. Were they wearing a safety harness? No. Are they cheap and affordable? Yep. Old habits die hard (no pun intended).

I was watching some guys install fall protection systems on roofs this summer. None of them were wearing any fall protection. Just seemed bizarre.

I'm sure it's like seatbelts, motorcycle helmets, etc. Restricting and kind of uncomfortable, easy to say "it'll never happen to me".

I worked for a roofer one summer when I was going to school, even back then (late 60s) we'd use them on the steeper roofs, though not always on lesser pitched ones. Back then they were very much a specialty item, now you can pick one up at HD so really no excuse.

 

[kthompson]

Maybe 8 years back there was a man killed on his motorcycle on road about 3 miles away. Car turn left meeting him. Wife had the motorcycle repaired and within 2 years of his death she was also killed by a driver turning left meeting her. Not on the same road I don't think but in the same general area. It was not where they lived. Maybe 15 miles away. All of this is memory and I did not know them but had a lady who worked for me who did. Both worked for a city one was a paramedic or such and not sure the other. All I know to say is it happens. This I know we never expect death at the moment it comes. My dad walked in the house on January 3rd and dropped dead while standing. He did not have any known heart problem but they said his exploded. At 16 I could not comprehend it. Thirty years and 11 months later my father in law who had heart and respiratory issues for about 2 years passed while I was on one side of his bed and his oldest daughter, my wife on the other side and his youngest at the foot of his bed. Yet I expected at least another breath, which did not come. To me, death gives no slack on it's coming. As I have learned to say, when you are called it is, "Ready or Not", you will answer.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Gas mask won't do it. You need oxygen.

I have had a carbon cannister respirator "block up" when there wasn't enough air left in the room to breathe. I sucked, and nothing made it through the mask. I got out of there fast.