HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy...

   / HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy... #11  
You didn't mention how many acres you have and that also might determine your tractor needs. Also how big are your corrals or are they more like pens? Do you need to bring the tractor in the corrals? Are your corrals permenant or are they made out of panels? The reason I ask is with abit more information we as a group can maybe assist you in narrowing down your choices. Whether you want Ford, Kubota, JD or whatever unless you can bend a wrench you will need support in maintaining your purchase. From what you've mentioned 4x4 is a must. Most likely HST would be a better choice than gear (especially dealing with neighbors trucks your loading). I've got horses to and find that what I'm using my tractor more for is pasture maintenance. Also you might consider a second tractor one for barn (aka manure) maintenance and a larger one for pasture maintenance. Just a few thoughts.
 
   / HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy... #12  
Friends of ours with a horse farm have a Ford 1715 model tractor. It works well for them and seems to be a good size for moving manure around, grading the arenas, liming and fertilizing the pastures, etc. You can find tractor specs at TractorData.com
 
   / HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy... #13  
I would look at a small Bobcat Skid Loader. My neighbor had a New Holland Mustang that was only about 40" wide that did just the job at the city police barn. He got it at auction for $3000 with a bucket and snow plow.

Chris
 
   / HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy... #14  
Hi, I've been looking at tractors now for about a month. I have a small horse stable and a huge pile of manure that I give away to people with gardens, only they want me to load it into the backs of their pickups. Also, my corrals (30 of them) get really muddy in the rain (i'm on dead flat land) and I've been putting materials into them (like roadbase, sand, etc) to firm them up. My stall doors are 4' wide, and corral fences 6' wide. I also have two arenas that need to be levelled out every now and then and softenend up. I am looking for a small tractor with a front loader and a box scraper. I want a 4x4 and diesel, with pto, 3 point hitch, and enough hp to get me through my jobs.

I am currently looking at 2 tractors: a Ford 1700 (1981) and a Ford 1100 (1982). I read the thread on the 1700 but want to know if anybody has an 1100 and what they can tell me about it? How hard is it to find parts for this model? Thanks.

Get yourself something like a Yanmar YM1500 with FEL to fit through those 48" stall doors.

TractorData.com - Yanmar YM1500 tractor data

You can find these for $6-7K.
 
   / HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy... #15  
I've gotta say you Kubota folks really carry your enthusiasim to an extreme ! It is like you can't accept the fact there are other good tractors out there.
1*I mean, she asked for information on a ford -
2*She should take the best deal she can find on the best tractor she can find that will do what she wants it to do whether it is a JD, NH, Case etc...nothing wrong with either of the ford models she mentioned. IMO
2* And to do that best she needs info on all brands even though she just asked about 2 fords.
 
   / HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy... #16  
Parts are no problems for any tractor if you can use the internet. I bought a Chinese tractor after having a Ford and both are easy to find parts for from dealers across the country. I call by noon and have the parts in 2 days, quicker if I want to pay more.

Chris

i really think its unfair to someone asking for advice to make such a blanket statement as that. there are some parts for some tractors that are unavailable no how well you can "surf" the internet. some parts are expensive enough they might as well be obsolete. if i were you and had a question about a particular used tractor, i would contact a dealer and inquire about availability of parts, since a lot of tractor parts are "dealer only" items. the dealer will also be able to warn you of any inherent probs. paying somebody that knows what they are looking at to look over a used piece is money well spent.
 
   / HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy... #17  
I don't want to get any controversy started. ;) However, a lot of information on here that wasn't asked for. Not that it is bad information. I am assuming (I know what that means):D that she had an opportunity to purchase either Ford tractor and wanted to know if they were good enough for her use. We know nothing about the condition of the tractors she is looking at, but let's assume (again):D they are in decent shape. If the 1700 will fit through the 48" doors I would suggest that one. IF she is goiong to muck the stalls in the barn and the 1700 wouldn't fit through the doors. I would suggest the smaller tractor. If I read the OP's question correctly, that is the type of information she wanted. Of course, with assuming, I could be wrong.:)
 
   / HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy... #18  
After reading everyones replies, I wanted to disagree with most of them and offer some other advice.

If you buy a used tractor, and it doesn't matter what brand it is, you need to ask yourself a question. Who is going to work on it when it breaks down? Is the original poster able to repair the tractor when something breaks? If so, how much time does she have to find parts? or figure out what parts are needed?

I'm not much of a mechanic, but I do tend to do all my own repairs. I have three tractors and a dump truck. All of them are common, big name brands. When one of them stops working, I have to figure out why. This is allot harder then replacing a broken part. Sometimes I can figure it out on my own, other times I've posted threads on here and gotten good advice. But there are enought times that it's fairly common that I've had to go to that dealer and ask for help. I have a dealer close by for everything that I buy.

That is the very most important thing in buying a tractor. Dealer support.

It does not matter what brand you buy, what color it is or how old it is. You HAVE to have a place where you can go to and get help. Saying that you can find the parts online is fine for collectors and those who are into off brands and old stuff, but not so much if it's a tractor that you need to work for you on a regular basis. My Case dozer is one of those that is starting to get hard to find parts for it. While my dealer has been amazing at getting the parts for it that I need, I've found that going online is sometimes cheaper. I accept this as part of owning older equipment, but only if you have that dealer support to help you go online, give you part numbers, and offer suggestions on where to find those parts. Even with that help and the knowledg that I was looking elsewhere, they still put together a list of parts that I needed and what they would cost. I've also had my New Holland dealer point me towards a repair shop that specializes in hydraulic repairs that is cheaper then what they are. I go there and pay for just the parts that I need, not a whole kit where I have to through most of it away, but paid for all of those parts.

The dealer is all that matters. If she is looking at Ford, that's fine. Lots of them out there and lots of people that like them. But if she cannot get parts for it, or has to spend days trying to find those parts, they wait for them to be shipped to her and then not know if that part is brand new, reconditioned or used, and how well it will work when installed, then it's not a tractor that she should be buying.

To the original poster;

Get out the yellow pages, find out who sells tractors in your area and go visit them. Look at the place, check out the parts department, spend some time talking to the people working there and ask what models of used tractors that they recomend. By their replies and willingness to help you, it will be real easy to see if that's a company that you want to rely on to keep your tractor running. If they are rude, don't want to help and try to sell you something you don't want, that's important information on what to buy. Every brand has it's horror stories and just because it's great for somebody in one part of the country, doesn't mean it's any good where you live. Take the time to do the footwork and find out for yourself who you can work with and who you want to rely on. Once you find the dealer that you like, then figure out what model tractor will suit your needs. This is when you should come on here and ask about that tractor. I realize you did this with the Ford tractors, but you didn't mention dealer support for those tractors, so the replies are meaningless on whether you should buy Ford or not.

Another consideration is to look at a skid steer. I've seen allot of them used for barn cleaning duty. Prices on older models are way down. They are very easy to manuver around, have the ability to change buckets for other things, and parts are usually easy to get. Of course, you have to find the right dealer first and then figure out what model is best for you.

It's always about the dealer, then you can decide on what tractor you want.

Eddie
 
   / HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy... #19  
On the subject of parts availability.......a buddy needed parts for a 50+ year old Ford tractor. He went to his local New Holland dealer and said he realized they wouldn't be able to get parts for such an old tractor, but hoped they could steer him in the right direction. My friend about fell over when the parts guy told him they stocked parts for his tractor.
Do like Eddie said. Talk to the parts guy and the techs before you buy.
 
   / HorseLady looking for 1st tractor to buy... #20  
It is always a tough decision. Go antique or "classic" for the lower price and face the possibilities of having to wrench it, face down down time while the track doesn't get groomed and the manure piles up. Parts are expensive and if you or someone living on the farm isn't mechanical, where do you get the labor and expertise?

Or, face the expense of a new machine with the higher investment, but expect years of trouble free performance.

The only thing I would add that "might" mitigate some of the pain of a new purchase is the whole zero down, zero interest that most are offering now and keep your cash to buy other things you need.

Here's to hoping it works out for you. It's not an easy call.
 

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