Hot seat time then I broke my 8n tractor. Shuckens!

[kebo]

Those are some pretty good sized tusks on that hog! How much did it weigh??

 

[doall]

thats a monster size skull. Was the meat any good on one that big?

 

[8NLUGNUT]

Those are some pretty good sized tusks on that hog! How much did it weigh??

Here he is in the trap.

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240 on the scale. That's pretty big for a wild free range boar. Occasionally we'll see one bigger but not too often.

Maybe the pothole I ran into was a hog wallow? It was down near the creek bed.

 

[8NLUGNUT]

thats a monster size skull. Was the meat any good on one that big?

Excellent. He had been eating corn and protein from my feeders and trap for years.

 

[Soundguy]

I'm guessing screwshaft, nut assembly failure of some type. Are we talking the same thing?

While steering left it would not catch but I could step left and get it to go left. But sometimes depending if I was holding right pressure on the wheel it would lock a few degrees left and no matter how hard I stomped left on the drag link end it would not go any further left.

That made for a pretty hairy trailer load and unload!

the steering shaft is called the wormshaft.. the assembly that runs the wormshaft and engages the double sector gear is the ballnut.

might have been a bad upper thrust bear that has come apart as well as the top bushing in the steering column, allowing excessive ballnut to sector clearance, plus letting rollers drop into the gears.

soundguy

 

[8NLUGNUT]

the steering shaft is called the wormshaft.. the assembly that runs the wormshaft and engages the double sector gear is the ballnut.

might have been a bad upper thrust bear that has come apart as well as the top bushing in the steering column, allowing excessive ballnut to sector clearance, plus letting rollers drop into the gears.

soundguy

Here's the cause as described to me by Charlie Parrish.

1. Rain water had seeped in around the rusted steering wheel collar and rusted out the upper bearing till it failed. I assume this is the cause of he excessive clearence as you described.

2. The rain water had been in there a long time causing problems.

Solution.

1. Replace bad bearings.

2. Disassemble clean, and relube.

3. New steering wheel.

4. Pay Charlie and get back to work.:thumbsup:

 

[Soundguy]

wow.. I've never seen a steering wheel hub rusted out soo bat that it let rain water in!.. it wouldliterally have to be rusted out at the top of the hub, unless the top had perforated.. or the column tub had a hole in it.

usually what happens is the sector seals leak and that make sthe lube level low.. then someone runs the tractor like that for 50ys.. then the upper thrust bearing wears out and disintegrates and rollers drop into the box. this usually lets the wormshaft have up/down play, and that beats ont he lower thrust bearing, and that also allows the top bushing at the top of the column to hog out.. this lets the wormshaft and ballnut set at an odd angle to the sector gear.. thus making steering have play and be hard to steer due to being in a bind, and no bearings.. and rolelrs falling into the sector gears. I think I have rebuilt just about every steering box on every ford I have save my 2n and 5000..

soundguy

 

[8NLUGNUT]

wow.. I've never seen a steering wheel hub rusted out soo bat that it let rain water in!.. it wouldliterally have to be rusted out at the top of the hub, unless the top had perforated.. or the column tub had a hole in it.

usually what happens is the sector seals leak and that make sthe lube level low.. then someone runs the tractor like that for 50ys.. then the upper thrust bearing wears out and disintegrates and rollers drop into the box. this usually lets the wormshaft have up/down play, and that beats ont he lower thrust bearing, and that also allows the top bushing at the top of the column to hog out.. this lets the wormshaft and ballnut set at an odd angle to the sector gear.. thus making steering have play and be hard to steer due to being in a bind, and no bearings.. and rolelrs falling into the sector gears. I think I have rebuilt just about every steering box on every ford I have save my 2n and 5000..

soundguy

I pick up the 8n yesterday. Sweet! That thing it so smooth now.

How the water got in.

The steering wheel rain cap was rusted on one side. If the tractor was parked outside with the rusted out side up and it rained, water would run down the shaft and get into the bearings.

After years of water and no lube, the bearings failed and as you describe, the bearings dropped into the sectors.

Charlie showed me the goo that was what left of the lube, water, and bearings.

It's amazing how the thing steered at all.

We hauled it back out to the ranch and we shredded with it for four hours straight.

Pretty nice.

There is one other possibility. Sometime in the past the tractor spent time submerged.

I've seen a truck and a tractor both that were parked next to a stock tank and roll down the dam and go under water.

It's pretty easy to drain and relube but maybe they forgot to drain the steering box.

 

[Soundguy]

I have a tractor I resurected that I am pretty sure was submerged during a flood.

soundguy