How are they on hills

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#61  
Well men,thanks for all the help and advice. Since I started this,figured I'd end it,,it don't look like the 425 will do what I need it to do,,would not want to use a mirror to till with and do have some hills to mow. thanks again,,thingy
 
   / How are they on hills #62  
O.K. Sorry it won't work out for you. But stop by anytime. We're alway's here! ;)
 
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#63  
Moss thanks for you alls honest help,,,still might go down and look this summer,,might even get ahold of gravy and come down and see his,,,butfor my place it probably don't fit,,,but for many out there who don't have those kinda hills and that much garden,,looks to me like it would be the thing,,,many people have an acre or two of flat ground and a little garden,and need a hand moving and picking up stuff,,,looks like the 425 would be a better way to go than a bigger 4wd 18,000 dollar big three or four,,,course many have plenty of money,[I guess],,,thingy
 
   / How are they on hills #64  
thingy said:
Moss thanks for you alls honest help,,,still might go down and look this summer,,might even get ahold of gravy and come down and see his,,,butfor my place it probably don't fit,,,but for many out there who don't have those kinda hills and that much garden,,looks to me like it would be the thing,,,many people have an acre or two of flat ground and a little garden,and need a hand moving and picking up stuff,,,looks like the 425 would be a better way to go than a bigger 4wd 18,000 dollar big three or four,,,course many have plenty of money,[I guess],,,thingy

Do not drive Gravy's PT. You will take it out on a 25 degree hill, see how well it works and you will have to buy one. This will cost you thousands ($10,000 to be more exact). :D I went over to a friend's father's house just to see his PT and then had to buy one.
 
   / How are they on hills #65  
thingy said:
Well men,thanks for all the help and advice. Since I started this,figured I'd end it,,it don't look like the 425 will do what I need it to do,,would not want to use a mirror to till with and do have some hills to mow. thanks again,,thingy

Let's set the record straight on the tiller direction, just about if not all tillers, till going forward. I think Thingy got confused when someone said that they till going backward. This is mainly done to get rid of tire tracks. Even going backward, the tiller is still tilling with the top of the tines going away from you. Multiple passes is good for fine pulverization.
 
   / How are they on hills #66  
thingy said:
Well men,thanks for all the help and advice. Since I started this,figured I'd end it,,it don't look like the 425 will do what I need it to do,,would not want to use a mirror to till with and do have some hills to mow. thanks again,,thingy
I beleive I would go to Tazwell and sit on one and try it out before I made my decision just for the fun of it, who knows it might grow on you . They might have a place nearby to let you try it on that is similar to yours and if they do then you would know for sure. If nothing else they are fun to drive and use and I beleive you would enjoy the trip, and the demonstration.
 
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#67  
Yeah,I think I will go down this summer,,,,does that tiller offset any?,if you could offset it like some of the 3 point tillers,,that would cover up one track and thats all you really need,than you could go forward with it,,,thingy
 
   / How are they on hills #68  
thingy said:
Yeah,I think I will go down this summer,,,,does that tiller offset any?,if you could offset it like some of the 3 point tillers,,that would cover up one track and thats all you really need,than you could go forward with it,,,thingy

It's not offset, it's centered on the QA hitch. But, keep in mind that you only have to go backwards on the last pass when you're tilling out your tracks. The rest of the time you can till going forward. It's not as bad as it might sound.

As an example, I have a King-Kutter 48" box-blade that I put a QA plate on to use with mine. You'd typically think I'd have to use it in reverse all the time. But, I find myself using it going forward as much, if not more, than using it going in reverse. I only go in reverse if I want to pull a mound of dirt into low spots, or if I want to use the rippers. The rest of the time I use it going forward, where it does a much better job than my snow/dirt blade. Using the bucket tilt/curl function, I can control the cutting angle on the front (actually the normal rear) of the boxblade and control the depth of cut. (With caster wheels on the snow/dirt blade I can't do that as readily.) The boxblade has the advantage that you can set the rippers in the middle setting and use the tilt/curl function to control whether they're contacting the ground or not (similar to having a hydraulic top-link on a regular CUT). Then it has something that a rear 3-point does not have -- down pressure. I can (and often do) put enough down-pressure on the boxblade to lift the front wheels.

With the tiller, you use the bucket tilt/curl function to control the depth of cut also. So, from what I'm told you can usually go over the ground twice -- driving forward -- and typically get it to full depth. Then quickly till it once going backwards and you have a "track-free" garden...

You really need to test drive one of these for an hour or so -- they do not work at all like a normal tractor does. For example, with the tiller out front on the lift arms, you can precisely put it up against fences and into corners that you likely wouldn't even try to do with a typical tractor....

Take a half-day and go to Tazewell -- it'll cost you only your gas money and perhaps lunch -- and you'll have a much, much better sense of whether one of these will work for you...
 
   / How are they on hills #69  
KentT said:
Take a half-day and go to Tazewell -- it'll cost you only your gas money and perhaps lunch -- and you'll have a much, much better sense of whether one of these will work for you...

Probably won't even cost you lunch: Ask Terry to take you out and buy you lunch as part of his sales pitch.

A small wager. I'll bet a PT 425 will do better at all the jobs you have for it than any other machine available, and I certainly include slope mowing and tilling. :)
I'll even bet that lunch in Tazewell, but unfortunately the good buffet place downtown closed up. :(
 
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Well,guess I'll go down. I wish it would be able to do them slopes too,,,I'll talk to them,,somebody said they had some real hills available down there,,,,
Any tractor,[by that I mean regular small tractor,deere,kabota,,even my chinese tractor] will make it up these slopes I got,with out any trouble,,,so its not straight up or anything,,,I figured it was about 20 degrees at the worst using 4ft pole level and yard stick way,,will look for another inclinometer.
Its just this pt has hydro drive and such,,and thats what started me asking about them,going up and down,,,we'll just have to go look at one and let them see if they can sell it,,,,KentT,thanks for that tiller pointer,,yeah,that might work out. thingy
 

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