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   / How are your investments doing? #31  
Warren Buffet says the best time to buy is when everyone is jumping out of windows. I think he's right.
And Joseph Kennedy Sr. said: “You know it’s time to sell when shoeshine boys give you stock tips. This bull market is over.” We're all at different places in our goals and objectives. He and Warren were both probably in their accumulation phase at the time(s) they were quoted.

Of course we don't know how the future will play out.

Stocks are very expensive right now. Having surpassed my final pre-retirement objective earlier this year has moved my focus to growing a cash stockpile without divesting current holdings. There are many similarities between now and 1928/29.
 
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Warren Buffet says the best time to buy is when everyone is jumping out of windows. I think he's right.

That is the advice I got several years ago.

Growing up on a farm I know my dad would buy cattle when they were cheap and build the herd up selling the steers and keeping the heifers. Then a few years later when the price went up he would sell a large portion of the herd in a summer. We only had a pickup truck to haul them in so it was two or three at a time to the stockyard.

Same way with stocks and mutual funds. Buy when the price drops, sell when the price is high.

RSKY
 
   / How are your investments doing? #33  
Warren Buffet says the best time to buy is when everyone is jumping out of windows. I think he's right.
From what I've read, he's selling these days for whatever that's worth. Then again, he's retiring end of the year, which might change his philosophy too.
 
   / How are your investments doing? #34  
What I find interesting in those investing is they never seem to talk about what their goal is. A lot just say retirement. So what is retirement? It means different things to different people.

RSKY Beef is super expensive right now. My neighbor tripled his herd this year. Good timing on his part.

 
   / How are your investments doing? #35  
What I find interesting in those investing is they never seem to talk about what their goal is. A lot just say retirement....


My goal is to have enough to insulate me from people I'd rather not be around.
 
   / How are your investments doing? #36  
I think we over-saved for retirement. Because I had the impression that working until 60-ish was just, well, a given. I was really just hoarding as much as I could.

I ended up leaving work at 47 when I realized working past that, was trading my time for $$ I'll never use.

Retirement for us is enjoying our small homestead, a few affordable hobbies and a little travel. No car payments or mortgages, just living expenses.

I have a lot of interests... So I keep myself pretty occupied
 
   / How are your investments doing? #37  
To those saying the market is too expensive…you realize it always appears too expensive at the moment .. for a given day, and circumstances?

Tomorrow, today’s prices will look like a bargain.

Here’s the S&P 1925-2025. 100 years of some people saying somewhere, along that timeline, on a given day/month/year, it was too expensive.🤔

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   / How are your investments doing? #38  
Warren Buffet says the best time to buy is when everyone is jumping out of windows. I think he's right.
That's what I did with Enphase stock, it went down, I bought. It went down more, I bought. It's currently down about 75%. I stopped buying.
 
   / How are your investments doing? #39  
I don't agree with the philosophy that you don't lose the money until you sell. Regardless of whether an investment is up or down, the only thing that matters is your assessment of the future.

If my buggy whip stock is down 75%, it might be time to acknowledge that buggy whips aren't a growth industry and accept my loss. When my Exxon stock was down, I believed that oil would continue to be a critical resource for the world, and I rode it out.

When I retired, I started paying closer attention to my investments, and I learned that several of the financial terms don't mean what I intuitively think they should mean.

To me, "amount invested" means the money that I took from my wallet and placed into an investment. If that investment produced dividends, which I allow to reinvest, my wallet would say that those dividends are part of the investment return. Financial software says those dividends add to my "amount invested". This causes the calculated "return" and "% return" to be lower than I would expect.

When evaluating long-term performance, it is also critical to "show closed lots". This means that, even if you sell a bad investment, it will still show up on your portfolio report with a current value of zero, and it is still used in the overall performance stats for the portfolio. This can make a HUGE difference in the calculated return and % return.

Internal rate of return (IRR) is the value that makes the most sense to me. It takes into account all of the buys and sells and dividends, and it calculates the equivalent annual interest rate that would generate the resulting value over time. IME, the IRR is unaffected by the "show closed lots" setting.

I also find that the RATE of return (IRR) is much more useful than the % return. If I have an investment that has generated a 30% return, that might be great, or it might be lousy. If I've only had it for a year, that's great. If I've had it for 20 years, then that's not so good.
What the heck is a buggy whip stock?
 
   / How are your investments doing? #40  
That's what I did with Enphase stock, it went down, I bought. It went down more, I bought. It's currently down about 75%. I stopped buying.
I had some of that. Dropped my losses with it at about 50%.
Don’t hang on to loosers.
You just need to have more winners than loosers
 

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