Buying Advice How do I decide-first time buyer

[TwinOAKS]

I will be purchasing a tractor and cannot decide between Kubota or JD.
Both are competitively priced so price will not be the deciding factor.

The Kubota model is Grand L4760 and JD is 4052R. Kubota is 2018 model
and JD is 2017 (additional discount of $1,500 for 2017 model)

I will be trying both out at the dealers within the next couple weeks.
Any help appreciated to help me make a decision.

Thank you.

 

[jeff9366]

Likely an L4760 rather than L4750.

Kubota L4760

2013 - L60 Series
Compact Utility tractor
Previous model: Kubota L4740
Series next: Kubota L5060
Series back: Kubota L4060

Manufacturer: Kubota

Variants:
L4760DT: Glide Shift
L4760HST: hydrostatic
L4760HSTC: hydro cab
Kubota L4760 Engine:
Kubota 2.4L 4-cyl diesel
naturally aspirated

Engine (gross): 49 hp [36.5 kW]
Engine (net): 47 hp [35.0 kW]
PTO (claimed): 41 hp [30.6 kW] (gear)
39.5 hp [29.5 kW] (hydro)

Engine Detail:
Kubota
diesel
4-cylinder
liquid-cooled
148.5 ci [2.4 L]

Bore/Stroke: 3.4x4.0 inches [86 x 102 mm]
Emissions: Tier IV
Emission control: exhaust gas recirculation (EGR)
Power (gross): 49 hp [36.5 kW]
Fuel system: direct injection
Rated RPM: 2700 (gear)
2600 (hydro)

Capacity:
Fuel: 13.5 gal [51.1 L]

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I
Control: position control, draft control optional
Rear lift (at 24"/610mm): 2760 lbs [1251 kg]

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: independent
Rear RPM: 540 (1.375)
Mid PTO: optional
Mid RPM: 2000

Dimensions & Tires:
Wheelbase: 74.6 inches [189 cm]
Weight: 3847 to 4222 pounds
Front tire: 8.3-16
Rear tire: 14.9-24

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x4 MFWD 4WD
Steering: hydrostatic power
Brakes: wet disc
Cab: Two-post foldable ROPS. Grand Cab with air-conditioning available with hydrostatic.

Hydraulics:
Gear Pump flow: 9.8 gpm [37.1 lpm]
Hydro Pump flow: 9.4 gpm [35.6 lpm]
Gear Total flow: 14.7 gpm [55.6 lpm]
Hydro Total flow: 14.1 gpm [53.4 lpm]
Gear Steering flow: 4.9 gpm [18.5 lpm]
Hydro Steering flow: 4.7 gpm [17.8 lpm]

Transmission: HST Plus
Gears: Hydrostatic transmission with three ranges plus Hydro Dual Speed Hi-Lo. The Dual Speed allows rapid switching between two speeds in range, either automatically or with a lever on the steering column. forward and hydrostatic reverse
Clutch: infinite (3-range)

Transmission: Kubota Glide Shift
Gears: 12 forward and 8 reverse
Clutch: hydraulic dry disc

 

[TwinOAKS]

Thank you, yes it is 4760 HSTCC with FEL, cab. I'm sorry but the spec's are a bit Greek to me.

 

[jeff9366]

John Deere 4052R

2014 - 4R Series
Compact Utility tractor
Previous model: John Deere 4520
Series next: John Deere 4066R
Series back: John Deere 4049R

Manufacturer: John Deere

Variants:
4052R: deluxe model

John Deere 4052R Engine:
Yanmar 4-cyl diesel

Emissions: Tier IV
Emission control: diesel particulate filter (DPF)
Power: 51.5 hp [38.4 kW] via turbo-charger
Rated RPM: 2600
Size: 127.6 cubic inch

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: independent
Rear RPM: 540 (1.375)

Dimensions & Tires:
Weight: 3770 lbs [1710 kg]
Front tire: 8.00-16
Rear tire: 13.6-28

John Deere 4052R Power:
Engine: 51.5 hp [38.4 kW]
PTO (claimed): 39.9 hp [29.8 kW]

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x4 MFWD 4WD
Steering: power
Cab: Two-post folding ROPS. Cab optional.

Transmission:
Transmission: eHydro
Type: hydrostatic
Gears: infinite forward and reverse

Transmission:
Transmission: PowrReverser
Type: power shuttle
Gears: 12 forward and reverse

 

[/pine]

I will be purchasing a tractor and cannot decide between Kubota or JD.
Both are competitively priced so price will not be the deciding factor.

The Kubota model is Grand L4760 and JD is 4052R. Kubota is 2018 model
and JD is 2017 (additional discount of $1,500 for 2017 model)

I will be trying both out at the dealers within the next couple weeks.
Any help appreciated to help me make a decision.

Thank you.

If either one will suit your needs sufficiently...buy the one you like operating the best and are most comfortable operating...
...while test driving try to imagine different tasks and options...i.e., looking backwards possibly operating auxiliary rear hydraulics etc...

 

[TwinOAKS]

JD Engine is turbo 4 cylinder. Tractor with cab, FEL.

 

[TwinOAKS]

Thank you. I would be brush hogging, moving round bales with bale spear and snow blower (rear).

 

[jeff9366]

You can probably purchase a deLuxe kit Yanmar brand tractor with the identical Yanmar 51.5-horsepower engine for less money than the Deere.

The Kubota has 2.5 LESS horsepower than the Deere/Yanmar but the Kubota's normally aspirated engine is significantly less complex than the turbo-charged Deere/Yanmar.

If you are at 6000'+ altitude the turbo-charged Yanmar engine would be advantageous.

 

[TwinOAKS]

I am in a small town, east coast and these are my only options for subcompact, other than going for the New Holland or other large agriculture tractors. The displacement for the JD is cu. in. (L) 127.6 (2.091). The JD is a yanmar engine on this particular tractor. Dealer mostly deals with large ag tractors but is bringing this model in for me to try. Both dealers are being very competitive to get my business so I'm down to what is easiest for me to handle.

 

[mljenkins]

I will be purchasing a tractor and cannot decide between Kubota or JD.
Both are competitively priced so price will not be the deciding factor.

The Kubota model is Grand L4760 and JD is 4052R. Kubota is 2018 model
and JD is 2017 (additional discount of $1,500 for 2017 model)

I will be trying both out at the dealers within the next couple weeks.
Any help appreciated to help me make a decision.

Thank you.

I looked at both models last Nov and went Kubota. Ended up going a bit larger for the L6060HSTC because there wasn’t much price difference and I liked the cat2 3 point as I had it on the tractor I traded.

Made my decision based on financing options, dealer responsiveness, and evaluating both tractors (or similar models) in person. Kubota seems to resale higher in my area and that was also a concern for me.

I liked the JD cab but wasn’t impressed with ease of getting to components for service and there was no step on the right side because I think the battery is down there. Thought the hydraulic lines were better protected on the Kubota and I plan to do a lot of clearing in rough areas. Liked how the Kubota cab had the fuel so low on the right. Was also overwhelmed by the number of options JD had and couldn’t get a good grasp on all of what I needed from the dealers. Again, if your JD dealer is close and awesome definitely put more weight there.

Overall I am very happy with my purchase. Don’t get me wrong the JD seemed like an awesome premium machine, but there were many factors for me which made my final decision. Evaluate both in person and talk to dealers and get them to give you pricing and go over available financing.

Matt

 

[TwinOAKS]

Thanks for your info. I found the same as you mentioned, re: JD overwhelmed by their options that are not included as in the Kubota quote.
This is a good idea, I will be prepared with an actual list when I visit the dealer. JD is closer to me (15 min) but Kubota is only 30 min away.

Interesting that not much price difference on L6060, will have to check that out.
Dealer has the L6060 tractor on the lot with industrial tires, they would have to bring in the L4760 from another location.

Marie

 

[mljenkins]

Thanks for your info. I found the same as you mentioned, re: JD overwhelmed by their options that are not included as in the Kubota quote.
This is a good idea, I will be prepared with an actual list when I visit the dealer. JD is closer to me (15 min) but Kubota is only 30 min away.

Interesting that not much price difference on L6060, will have to check that out.
Dealer has the L6060 tractor on the lot with industrial tires, they would have to bring in the L4760 from another location.

Marie

There is another user on the forums that just for a L4760HSTC and between his thread and mine on the 6060 there is quite a bit of info under the Kubota ownership forum here. The only regret I may have is fuel consumption is higher. I already had a cat2 tractor I traded and all my implements were setup cat2 (easily changed though). Because I was getting 0% financing and I want the tractor to be capable many years through my improvements to my property I thought it worthwhile to just invest in the HP now. I don’t know how much it will really matter long term but I figured it wasn’t something I could just upgrade when needed. My property is pretty steep where I mow and I eventually want to get a larger mower and don’t want to slow down much

I took a bulleted list I typed up to each dealer and took notes at each one I visited. They all had their pros and cons, same with the different brands.

 

[Wagtail]

G'day Mate and welcome to TBN from Downunder.

As you've said, both dealerships are keen for your business and both tractors are good ones from reliable manufacturers...

So, what are the dealership's reputations? How supportive are they to their customers regarding parts & service? You can find this out by talking with your neighbours and/or at the local pub.

Tractors last a long time. A great dealership is a large factor in the equation.

 

[TwinOAKS]

G'day Mate and welcome to TBN from Downunder.

As you've said, both dealerships are keen for your business and both tractors are good ones from reliable manufacturers...

So, what are the dealership's reputations? How supportive are they to their customers regarding parts & service? You can find this out by talking with your neighbours and/or at the local pub.

Tractors last a long time. A great dealership is a large factor in the equation.

I had to laugh re: local pub. I was in Australia many years ago (Sydney) and we took a shortcut thru a pub, it was 10:00 am or possibly 9:00 am. and it was full, lots of fun there.

Anyway, I heard good news on both dealerships so not much help there, but I drove the Kubota and really liked it, next week I'm trying the JD, then I'll make my decision. Thanks everyone for your much appreciated advice and encouragement.

 

[TwinOAKS]

I did get a quote for the L6060 and yes not much of a difference in price, I was seriously thinking it over; however now you got me thinking the fuel costs, diesel is pretty pricey here so .... do I need the extra h.p.? Also the cab was a bit higher and a bit wider, which would be a tight fit in my soon to be constructed barn.

I found the blog on the L4760 (first impressions), that guy should be a salesman, makes one want to rush out to buy one! oh and don't forget your coffee lol.

 

[airbiscuit]

Does that size Kubota still have that goofy single pedal Hydro?

It might also be worthwhile to compare loader specifications.

 

[airbiscuit]

The Kubota with Cab is 4,222 #
The John Deere with Cab is 4,675#

It looks like the John Deere Loader has better specs, especially breakout force

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

For what you want to do literally either tractor will work lol

What’s your fav color? Lol

I have a 4320, I like it, cab ergonomics is really nice, I don’t have to be a gymnast to hit the deff peddle and directional peddles or split rear brakes and directional peddles.

I’m not a fan of how compact the cab feels but it’s better than the wind and cold of the winter.

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

The battery is in the nose of my tractor, with how compact the cab is and where the loader stick is at a step on the other side of the tractor would be useless, sure it would be nice to exit and enter from both sides but that issue is really low on the list of things to care about for me.

I really wouldn’t worry about the extra fuel consumption of a larger engine, I would rather have more HP available than be limited due to less consumption of fuel.

I have 2 neighbors that pay me $50 per season for me to clear their driveways of snow while I’m clearing mine. I set that price btw, sure it prob doubles my time clearing snow from 20-30 mins to about an hour but it more than pays for my fuel all season and works the tractor more which is both fun and good for the old gal.

So like I said, I wouldn’t worry about fuel too much.



I’m sure the 4052R is similar to my 4320 (48hp, 4 family).

 

[teg]

What’s your fav color? Lol...

I was thinking a coin flip.... :2cents: Heads = Kubota and Tails = John Deere