How good r our little Ym's for clearing fence rows & pulling trees ?

[SailorBob]

You are lucky to be able to clutch it in time. Typically the "flip" is so fast that the operator does not even realize what is happening.

I personally think the 1610 is too small to pull trees & a ROPS is a first priority on any tractor.

Aaron
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Aaron,
you are correct. I kind of fudged a little bit. I jumped off the tractor really fast. I was able to push in the clutch with my hand standing beside the tractor and push the throttle forward and kill the engine. It did happen really quick. It seemed like slow motion. I guess the good lord does look after fools. ikind of hated to admit that i was so stupid.

A small tractor is not a dozier even though it feels like it.

 

[MJPetersen]

I have pulled trees out with my 1510D. I had some oak and choke cherry trees that were under the power line that the electric company said had to come out. I first topped them to about 12-15 feet and tied a rope to the top. I gave a tug on it to see where the major roots were and cut them with an axe. Then when I began actually pulling them out I used a fulcrum braced against the base of the tree about 18 inches up. This fulcrum then lifted the tree as I pulled on it. That worked for me. At first even when I got the tree down I could not pull it out, but lifting the base as i pulled worked very well. Just my experience. It did not do all the manual work but it certainly helped a lot!!

Mike

 

[bobidy]

folks! Thanks for the input. Common sense told me the light weight/low hp of the 1610 would limit it's use for those kinds of tasks, I'm also aware that these yanmars are not dozers and for the most part, are best used for tilling/mowing and lighter tasks. I also don't want to put undue stress on the tractor. especialy the clutch/tranny using it for something it was not designed for.

At the same time, I felt the tractor should be useful in some capacity in helping me to clean things up. not having ever owned a tractor, much less a cut. I thought asking more experienced owners would help me get a better handle on things. I am a little surprised there wern't more responses. I figured there would have been more folks who had tried to use their cuts for things like that. Maybe that should tell me something?

I did go out yesterday and do a little experimenting. The ground is fairly soft now due to the rainy period we had, but it's dried out enough to get around and have some traction. After looking things over, I decided you folks are right. A dead straight pull with the draw bar is not the way to go. Dangerous! I'm sure the 3pt grubber I was contemplating would be the same. Just not enough weight/hp.

I did manage to uproot a 3 inch dia,(shallow rooted) 10 to 12 ft plum just using the fel & without putting any noticeable stress on the tractor. Very little traction issues in 4wd. a little digging out around the trunk, taking about 2" slices at a time & some gentle pushing on opposite sides of the trunk at about mid point of the fel's reach & we soon had the plum on its side. A little more slicing around the stump and some curling of the bucket & out it popped. I was surprised! it was really pretty easy. (a tooth bar might be a help there.)

I worried about that kind of use causing clutch problems down the road, but the tractor seemed to preform without any protest. The ground conditions played the major part in that, i'm sure. I used the heal of the bucket and the float position to back drag/fill the hole then tamped er down. looks good. I played it safe, had fun & did a good job to boot.

At least now I know when conditions are right, I can use the tractor & fel to root out at least, some of the 2-3" trees and dig out around the others enough to cut the trunk below ground level. the smaller stuff I'll just bh & keep it that way. May take me a year, But Lord willing, I will get it done eventually.

Mike:
I will keep your technique in mind if I have problems with some of the deeper rooted saplings. Did you have any problems with the front end raising up on you?

Rhett:
I followed a thread in the "build it yourself" forum where you were constructing a 2 legged lever to help with pulling some saplings. How did that go? I couldn't find any follow up's.

Again, I appreciate the 'cautions' and advice from everyone who took the time to respond. Thanks!

Bob.

 

[MJPetersen]

Mike:
I will keep your technique in mind if I have problems with some of the deeper rooted saplings. Did you have any problems with the front end raising up on you?

The front got light, but I would run out of traction before it would really come up. Then I started backing away from the tree with some real weight on the 3 pt and that worked best. I have 4X20 kilo suitcase weights and that hold the front down pretty well. Your FEL would provide front weight.

Good job in giving it a go!! Your tractor can do the job, just take it easy and little by little you will be victorious!!

Mike

 

[bobidy]

some pics

 

[rhett]

hi again bobidy,

I posted a few pix in the original thread here

Those are 9' lengths of pipe for the legs. I do like the crane best, easiest to use without help.

 

[rhett]

a few pix of Field Crane uprooting a tree

 

[bobidy]

Ah... ingenuity, the drive to create. u gota love it. or,(as in my case) not always having the funds to go out and purchase what u need or want while, disapointing at times has a blessing in it. At least if you respond in a positive way. nourishes creativity & nudges u into getting off your duff and using your mind and hands to come up with what u need. But I digress.

Rhett.

Yes! thats the lever I was thinking of! And the same principle mike was talking about. I couldn't find the follow up post and was wondering how it was too be used. At first I had some screwy thoughts on how to use it. After seeing your pics I think I understand. My thoughts would have defeated the purpose of the lever & just put me back to needing brute force and weight to pull the tree. If I am following the principles involved correctly; the swing of the lever is what does the work? & the height of the lever determines the amount of lift?

The crane looks good. nice work! and I can see why u prefer it. For me, since I have a fel, I think the lever would help me accomplish the job with less cost and fabrication. I can picture digging out around the tree with the fel and pulling it with the lever. Or the other way around. I will just have to make one and give it a shot. Did u have any problems with the frt of the tractor lifting up.

Mike:

Thanks for the encouragement. Your home made implements look great. I bet they work as good as they look.
I think HE has directed your paths quite well. Your a good witness. I too, look to acknowledge Him in all my ways. but I can be stiff necked at times. Thank God for Grace!

Again, many thanks all. For the good advice & tips & sharing what you have done.

Bob.

 

[beenthere]

Aaron,
you are correct. I kind of fudged a little bit. I jumped off the tractor really fast. I was able to push in the clutch with my hand standing beside the tractor and push the throttle forward and kill the engine. It did happen really quick. It seemed like slow motion. I guess the good lord does look after fools. ikind of hated to admit that i was so stupid.

A small tractor is not a dozier even though it feels like it.

If you had time to "jump off the tractor" then you had plenty of time to calmly push in the clutch. Panic moves are not safe moves.
Best you don't do such things with your tractor in the future.
But that doesn't mean that others can't safely remove stumps with their tractors. Just do it carefully, and don't ever "get a run" at it for a sudden jerk. A steady pull will give an idea if this is an immovable object or if it is within the power of your tractor. Hooking high (above the tractor drawbar [not a 3pt drawbar]) is not a good idea if there is concern over keeping the front end down.

Personnaly, I use the FEL forks to uproot stumps. Breaking off side roots and digging out the stumps slowly and carefully. Works great. With small tractors, being in a hurry doesn't work. But you could dig them out with a teaspoon if given enough time. So any size tractor will work if enough time is alloted.