Ballast How much ballast is too much?

   / How much ballast is too much? #41  
Too much is when the tires blow, the axles bend and the rims seperate.:laughing:

Ballast is purely common sense. It appears that common sense lacks with some posters.
 
   / How much ballast is too much? #42  
Glad you clarified that. I thought it just had to be when the front wheels won't touch the ground anymore and you cannot steer except with the brakes on the HST pedal side. :D
 
   / How much ballast is too much?
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#43  
I want to thank all of you that have taken the time to post and share your comments and wisdom. When I started the thread to ask the initial question, I didn't expect we would have such a comprehensive dialog -- I appreciate it! I've been doing this stuff for quite a while and it's still given me some points I hadn't fully considered. Thanks again!
 
   / How much ballast is too much? #44  
I want to thank all of you that have taken the time to post and share your comments and wisdom. When I started the thread to ask the initial question, I didn't expect we would have such a comprehensive dialog -- I appreciate it! I've been doing this stuff for quite a while and it's still given me some points I hadn't fully considered. Thanks again!

There's always a strong possibility that if you asked what time it is on this site, SOMEONE would tell you how to build a clock.....;) Can be a great thing or it can be a can opener vs can of worms!
 
   / How much ballast is too much?
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#45  
There's always a strong possibility that if you asked what time it is on this site, SOMEONE would tell you how to build a clock.....;) Can be a great thing or it can be a can opener vs can of worms!

Ha ha! That's probably true. In a related ballast thread, Roy Jackson said something that also made me laugh: " Oh...trust us...we can make a long thread about any subject..." It's always good to know we site members have such esteemed talents and skills!
 
   / How much ballast is too much? #46  
There's always a strong possibility that if you asked what time it is on this site, SOMEONE would tell you how to build a clock.....;) Can be a great thing or it can be a can opener vs can of worms!



Well it might really be 4:00 pm where I am and somebody else would think it is 2:00 pm.:confused: Some of these guys are so hard headed as to think THEY ARE RIGHT.:(
 
   / How much ballast is too much? #47  
Well it might really be 4:00 pm where I am and somebody else would think it is 2:00 pm.:confused: Some of these guys are so hard headed as to think THEY ARE RIGHT.:(

No No No.....It's 5:59PM....No wait.....It's 6:00PM.....Hold on a minute....It's....
 
   / How much ballast is too much? #48  
Someone on here or another forum had a tag line, I thought was funny; something like "Those who think they know everything are especially annoying to those of us who actually do."
 
   / How much ballast is too much? #49  
What time is it? Either time to get on the tractor and time to get off:laughing:
 
   / How much ballast is too much? #50  
Baby Grand hit it on the nail talking about CG. FarmWithJunk hit it also, but used another term besides CG.

You add ballast to change your Center of Gravity (CG). An example is extending a backhoe bucket straight out to move your CG aft on the tractor.

The photo below shows me moving a complete pine tree to the burn pile. I had to raise the loader up high to get the tree moving. The tree is way over the weight of my loader lifting the whole tree, so I drug it. With the loader this high, the rear tires starting lifting when I put it low range reverse.

I extended the backhoe and slowly drug it to the burn pile with no rear tire lifting. The CG moved aft to favor more weight on the rear axle.

My 7 foot loader bucket can handle 3900 pounds. The backhoe weighs 1600 pounds. However, numerous times I have had to extend the backhoe to raise a stump out of a hole.

Someone here mentioned the triangle of the CG or something like that on a slope. When you fill the rear tires and on a slope, the CG tends to stay within your "safe" center of gravity envelope. When you add ballast to the 3PH, you may have the ballast too high and it will move the tractor's center of gravity way to the downhill side and past the tires of the tractor. I am thinking of a weight box on the 3PH lifted here. Depending on the slope angle, this will cause the CG to help tip the tractor over.

Think of a pendulum hanging from the centerline of your tractor. As you go sideways up a slope that gets steeper, the pendulum will swing from directly under your tractor towards the downhill tire. The pendulum illustrates how your CG can move on a slope and cause a tip over.

You can read up on the center of gravity by researching weight and balance in aircraft.
hugs, Brandi
 

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