How much extra weight needed?

   / How much extra weight needed? #11  
If your ground is frozen - wait until spring. Two things could easily happen. If you are lucky - the tines will dig in - the tractor will come to an immediate stop - all four wheels will start spinning. If you are unlucky - the tines will dig in - you will hear an immediate "sproing" - something just broke.
 
   / How much extra weight needed? #12  
Yep Al, that's exactly how I get my Russian olive and buckthorn out also. Push 'em over, then back up a smidge and grab the roots you just exposed. A tooth bar helps this (and all other forms of digging).

All you guys postulating that something is gonna break are acting like you never hit a surprise root or rock with a box blade before. I must have jerked my tractor to a sudden dead stop at least a couple dozen times when putting in my trails and driveway. But, I guess that was summer and stuff does break easier when it's real cold out.
 
   / How much extra weight needed? #13  
Yep Al, that's exactly how I get my Russian olive and buckthorn out also. Push 'em over, then back up a smidge and grab the roots you just exposed. A tooth bar helps this (and all other forms of digging).

All you guys postulating that something is gonna break are acting like you never hit a surprise root or rock with a box blade before. I must have jerked my tractor to a sudden dead stop at least a couple dozen times when putting in my trails and driveway. But, I guess that was summer and stuff does break easier when it's real cold out.

It's when the tractor doesn't get anchored to a dead stop that something breaks.....

Can't tell from pic if it's a 2501 or 4701, but can guarantee if it's a 3901 or 4701, in 4wd with those AGs, scarifiers fully down, that TSC BB stands a good chance of being what gets broken. My Bush Hog SBX72 is a little heavier than the County Line I had previously and I have no problem shearing the teeth :)

Yeah, it's a tool, use it. It will eventually break - if nothing else will eventually rust away..... I'm not saying don't do the work....just go about it in a way less likely to break stuff.
 
   / How much extra weight needed?
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#14  
Tjhe Bota is a L3301, is a stick not hydro. I would not put the teeth a;; the way down on the first pass. I would dpo a couple at the highest setting but digging in then slowly work the teeth longer.

Four legged straw bosses. Not ours I would have a hay burner. Rather a few steers I like beef better than horse meat.
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Just a tad and right of the pines about 75 feet to the next flag stake.

:D Al
 
   / How much extra weight needed? #15  
That's not a really big/heavy box blade. I agree with others, I'd wait till spring. If I couldn't, I'd take small passes, the weak link there is very likely to be the BB rather than the tractor. Go REAL slow if you add weight and try not to stick it too deep. I know, all common sense, right? ;)
 
   / How much extra weight needed? #16  
If it is frozen wait till spring. Frozen ground requires heavy duty equipment. Your blade will not dig in. You have to rip the ground first. You would probably be down to one or maybe two shanks on your backblade. If it is really six inches of frost once you get a shank down either something breaks or you lose traction.

[video]https://www.google.ca/search?q=cat+ripper+shank&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari#imgrc=QI0k6sUs4VpBEM:[/video]
[video]http://www.ripcorippers.com/[/video]

Some cat shanks for rippers.
 
   / How much extra weight needed? #17  
I put a weight bar from a weight lifting set across the rear and slid all the weight I could find on it. I must have added 300# or so but it worked great for digging in.

Just take it easy pulling at first to see if it digs in. I dropped my diggers all the way down and tilted the BB ahead for a better plowing effect. I never tried it on ice though but be cautious.
 
   / How much extra weight needed? #18  
You're the only one who can figure this out. Drop one shank at time, if that digs then drop another and so on until it bounces over the surface. You know the weight of the boxblade and from that can determine how much weight per shank you need to penetrate the soil. With luck it will become a traction issue before it becomes a boxblade destruction issue.

I see Egon already adequately covered this, I'll leave my post anyway.
 
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