We had a cold crisp day up in the northeast. Perfect day for skidding with 4" of snow on the ground. I got to have ample seat time and really rung out my just installed tire chains. Somehow my original order got screwed up from Tirechains.com and instead of sending me vbar ladders, I received standard twist link. As I was anxious to start getting wood in once again, I just kept them and laced them up back and front. Fronts were 2 link at least. I wasn't expecting that much but was pleasntly surprised at the amount of traction gained. It was actually better than uncovered land with no snow and running unchained R1's. Skidding is now a joy and was taking out bigger stuff than normal such as a dead 40' oak stem at 18" at the base. (that snow on the ground acts like WD40 for log skidding) I wish I was tech savvy and knew how to place pictures from my digital up here for people to see. This would give anyone else with tire chain questions some info on what even the simplest chains are capable of. I can only imagine how effective those studded ice chains would be in this situation or even the vbars for that matter. For 200 bucks , I can live with what I got however. Thanks to all who contributed.