Box Scraper How much weight to add to 5ft box blade

[Slowpoke Slim]

I have a 5 foot box blade on a Branson 4720h
Itç—´ not cutting real well and Is losing traction on the rear tires how much weight would be the minimum to put on the box blade to make it work better?

Thinking about building a metal box that I will fill it with concrete but I want to keep it off the top of the blade a little bit so dirt and stuff can still come over the top

I would start with filling your rear tires. My tractor was delivered with Rim Guard in the rears already, so I can't give you a "before and after" report illustrating the difference. But my bare tractor weight is slightly heavier than yours (less than 100 lbs difference, 4118 lbs yours, 4195 lbs mine), but with FEL, bucket, loaded rear tires and a 6' box blade, mine weighs 7100 lbs (I weighed it on a CAT scale).

I can pull my 6' box blade with a full load of material without losing traction normally. This is with R4 tires as well. The only issue I've had with traction on my 6' box blade was when I was pulling a full box, had the scarifiers down, and hooked a tree root. That stopped me (I started just spinning the one back tire). But by engaging the front diff and switching to HST 1 range, I was able to continue. Once I got done with the scarifiers, I was able to disengage the front end and go back to HST 2 range without any further problems.

I would either fill your rear tires, or add rear wheel weights if you don't want fluid in your tires. I went with the Rim Guard because of it's low freezing point, and it's heavier per volume than water. In this instance, weight is your friend.

 

[wagne223]

Others have already covered my thoughts so I wont repeat.

It would be nice to have more details of your project and issues.
As always photos of your equipment and ground will help get you more detailed assistance.

Finally, this guy on You Tube explains in detail how to set up and use a box blade.
I learned a lot from watching his videos.

how to set up a box blade, the angle of the dangle! - YouTube

 

[bigrich954rr]

Ok thank you guys for all the info I just called about getting rear tires filled . Trying to get that done Friday. They said they use beet juice.

I値l try to get pic the hosting or posting is the hard part for ,

The river normally gets to 6 feet on spring flush we had a rushing 8-9 ft this year Dumped a bunch of river sand and gravel on parts of the alfalfa field trying to scrape some of that off some spots 2 ft deep but not a huge area. I just want to Spread the sand out but remove the rocks

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Beet juice is normally called "Rim Guard". That's it's commercial name anyway. Don't know if it's sold under any other name.

For pics, if you click on the little square with the tree in it at the top middle of the reply box, a pop up comes up that will allow you to upload a pic to this website directly from your computer. That's how I normally post pics on this site. Some sites don't allow you to upload pics directly, so those must be hosted on a 3rd party pic hosting website.

Good luck.

 

[Rebeldad1]

Are you trying to use the box blade and rippers at the same time?
May try the rippers first and come back with the box blade alone?
Are you using the 4 wheel drive?

 

[bigrich954rr]

Yea trying to use both at the same time .

I use 4 wheel drive sometime it does pretty good in 4wheel but I want to Inprove it because I feel like the front wheels are doing most of the work right now.

The tires will be filled tonight I will most likely take pictures and work on it Friday or Saturday and I値l post some up here

 

[edgarrian]

We had a built a house 3 years ago. I did the grading of my yard before sowing with seed. I have a 1705 massey and used my box blade to level out the yard. I had a few good knobs. In indiana the soil is mostly clay. I was having a hard time with traction. How I solved my issues. Were I put material in my FEL bucket. Made a world of difference.

 

[oosik]

I'm sure that one of the MAJOR reasons my roll over box blade works so well - my Kubota M6040 weighs - 10,100#. However - I can, quite easily, turn this operation into four spinning/digging tires. Just take too aggressive a cut with this implement.

Successful, efficient use of a box blade is an art requiring many hours of practice. I am still a novice.

 

[bigrich954rr]

Well I loaded the rear tires I should have done that a long time ago. It digs a lot better . I Noticed another issue I知 only using one rear tire to drive if I step on the rear Diff lock it has amazing pulling power. But that痴 another issue I posted in the Branson forum.

Hoping tomorrow to try some digging in the backfield

 

[Deere Dude]

I found that for extra traction, keep the FEL bucket full and in 4WD.