How to get more grip going up and down steep hills

ZJ_HR · Aug 29, 2004

ZJ_HR- Does for sure our tractor have a front PTO? I figured out PTO pretty quick, thank you. Is it an option or does our tractor have this? Do you know? 

I saw today 3050. Front lift and PTO are optin. I don't see from pic do you have it or not. If you haven't, mount sprayer tank (just tank!!!) on brackets in front of tractor. Then you'll don't need front weights. And run spreayer pump and fan on the back from rear PTO.
Your 3050 is tipical hilly machine, with low profile and centre of gravity, one of best /some models have JD engine and some are sold green, under JD name. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Varmintmist · Aug 29, 2004

Axel, front. thingy which goes between the front wheels, rotates.

Driveshaft, a pipe looking thingy with a U looking thingy on each end (typical)

Transmission, Thingy in the middle of the tractor that the gearshift goes into..

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Seirously, if you look at the front wheel on the inboard side, if the wheel looks like it is just hooked to the hub with no way to make the wheel turn under power then it is 2wd.

tractors are pretty open and basic, a good stare and compare with a website pic and your tractor should give you a pretty good idea. Doesnt nessassarly have to be the same make just to learn the nomenclature. Try the Kubota site and pick one. Pretty good veiws of the machine.

SPIKER · Aug 29, 2004

ROXX:

DIF LOC is the differencial of the tractors rear end, the differencial lets the tires turn at different speeds when going around corners, (inside wheel needs to turn slower than out side wheel, just as on a car.) the LOCK will lock the two tire sides together which makes them both turn at the same speed. otherwise one tire can SPIN FREELY and no power will then go to the other tire. it is usually a small lever down on/near the floor to step on with the heal of the foot. OR a longer lever so that you can push it IN while moving up the hill, it may not go INTO LOC right away so maintaining a slight bit of pressure on the lever may be needed to get it LOCKED, once locked it MAY need to be held INTO the loc postion untill you reach the top, but you must take it out of the LOC detent after getting to the top so you can turn corners normally again!

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I agree with others about getting training at the dealers! backing up like others said, (I have lots of front end ballance with my FEL, (front end loader) so I drive up down forwards on my steep hills. (I have one spot that is pretty much grass covered and I mow it, which is 45 degrees easy.) you' slope like someone said 30 something should be easy, cept for the lOOSE gravel, the concrete is a good idea, stops erosion and will make traversing easier for sure...

CUT = compact utility tractor

Mark M aka SPIKER
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rox · Aug 30, 2004

ZJ,
Thanks for telling me that we do in fact have a good tractor. I am in the house wating to buzz in the olive farm consultant when she is here we will look at the tractor.
Micor Pilot & Tracdoc, thanks for the links to the Goldoni website. Using those links I read up a little bit on the tractor. I believe we do have the differential locks which Spike and Varmintmist are talking about. From the websites it looks like is should be a peddle on the floor. I now know that going up and down the hills we should lock the differrential lock. When I asked him if our tractor was 4WD he didn't know, so I guess how does he know how to put in into 4WD??? ZJ in Croatia, do you think our tractor is always in 4WD, or do you have to put it into 4WD? My appraoch to this is going to be to ask him to teach me how to drive the tractor. Based on what you guys are telling me here, like "Honey where is the Differential Lock?" and when he doesn't know every lever and button then I can suggest a trip to the implement dealer. I jsut don't want to hurt his pride. Many thanks to All, even if I didn't mention you by name, Eagon, Henro etc. Just THANKS!!! ~rox
p.s. the Olives are looking very good, i love our second life. Today I take my first French Lessons.

Egon · Aug 30, 2004

Best of luck Rox.

I just love the look of some of the European farm landscape. Stone terraced hillsides are my favorite. Many of us here really are not familiar with the steepness and constrictions involved. Much different than being able to sit on the tractor and look a little over three miles in any dirrection.

Olives and olive oil are one of my favorite foods so make sure the crop is well looked after.

Egon

ZJ_HR · Aug 30, 2004

Hey Rox,
I'm just 1200 km from you, and have some experience with tractors.
Maybe I can go there and introduce you (and myself too) with your tractor? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif JOKE
I will look soon closer on that tractor and try to answer you.
So, write all what you know, and I'll try to collect you all informations. BTW, a friend is Goldoni dealer, but is not close to me to visit him and borrow a user manual. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

stephan · Aug 30, 2004

One last suggestion that I don't think has been made yet is to get the road some attention from a dozer and/or roller. Perhaps you could level out some and fill some thus reduce the overall gradient?

I drive my tractor in and out of the dam (empty and steep) for kicks sometimes and I have found the rule is to pick a lowish gear, keep the revs up and not to loose momentum.

Currmudgeon · Aug 30, 2004

Unlike a couple of others here, the slopes on your photos look extremely steep to me. The photos are scary. The factr that the previous owner rolled three tractors is an indication of the risk.

I would load the wheels rather than adding exterior weights, because that lowers the center of mass a little more. You want your CM as low as you can get it.

Personally, I'd want caterpillar tracks, but that doesn't seem to be an option at the moment.

( how does he know how to put in into 4WD??)

Do any of the controls have pictorial symbols? The 4WD lever on my John Deere is marked with a schematic picture of the drive train for 4WD and a picture of the drive train broken for 2WD.

KiotiJohn · Aug 31, 2004

( Do any of the controls have pictorial symbols? The 4WD lever on my John Deere is marked with a schematic picture of the drive train for 4WD and a picture of the drive train broken for 2WD.)
I think that has become the international symbol as I have seen it on many, and it's on mine also. That was one of the things I was going to say so thanks for reminding me!!
Another thing ROX, is that most tractors are at their limit on a 20 degree slope. If the math was correct, and I think it was close enough for comfort, you would be really exceeding any safe traversing of that hill, and my recommendation would be to NOT try taking that tractor up there unless you were sure everything was compensated for somehow. I'm just not sure it should even be done under the circumstances in which you now find yourself. 4WD, ballast and all the rest may not help a lot with such a steep hill. Unless you could extend the tires out a WHOLE lot, I wouldn't do it. John

JerryG · Aug 31, 2004

Another thing ROX, is that most tractors are at their limit on a 20 degree slope 
That is for going across a slope. Going up and down is in the 30s. Having said that, you can go quite a bit more than 30, if you know the land and your comfortable with the tractor.