How to Plug a tire?

   / How to Plug a tire? #21  
Soundguy,

I have two Red air containers about the size of 20LB propane tanks with a gauge, valve and air hose attached. They sell these at auto parts, and big box stores etc.

Now that got me thinking about those three nearly new propane tanks I have w/o the new OPD device - they would also make a good air tank once purged of propane.

Carl
 
   / How to Plug a tire? #22  
I have one of those tanks.. just no room for it on the tractor while out in the field. I already carry too much stuff as it is./w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif

Besides.. I was thinking of something for like a car.. something the wives would be ok with using.. besides.. it would look like an aresol ( hair spray ) can.. and they should be familiar with that! /w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Soundguy

Soundguy
 
   / How to Plug a tire? #23  
OK now we have to build an On-Board -Air system like the one I use off-road.

York A/C compressor, custom bracket, air lines, pressure switch, small tank (smaller than the common portable tank) should be able to find on from a 'big truck' store.

Thes compressors put out a tom of air. It is just like having your shop compressor. You do not have to have the tank. The unit alone will blow up the tire. They can run all day. You can even run air tools!


There are write -ups on-line if you are interested. I can post the link.
 
   / How to Plug a tire? #24  
lmao..ok CJ now ya have me thinkin (probably should be in the customizing group)how about a small belt driven compressor...run it off the rear pto.notta a whole lotta room under the hood of my Case or Ford.Be sweet for airin out the radiator while brush hoggin ...Sid
 
   / How to Plug a tire? #25  
Some of the plugs may tend to leak over a period of time - I think that's the main reason some shops put the internal patches in. I have also found a lot of places that just plug them now - for up to $12!! No way.

I've used the premium do it yourself plug kits for years on everything I own - I'd never take it in. I usually don't even have to take the tire off the vehicle to install the plug. I like em!
 
   / How to Plug a tire? #26  
For gas engines, like the old ford 8n, etc, there is an attatchment that you hook up by removing a spark plug, and screwing it in. It uses hte enging vacume to actuate a pump mechanism to fill your tires. Low volume, so I don't think you could use it as a air line to blow out the radiator.. but it will air up the tires.

Not sure where you could get one of these gadgets,... if they are still available even.. but i have seen pictures of them.
Not very practicle though... I really wouldnt want to have to stop and pull a plug just to air a tire.. but sure beats walking I guess.

Soundguy
 
   / How to Plug a tire? #27  
I used to repair alot of tires when I worked at a gas station years ago. We would only patch if the hole was not near the curved area - didn't like to stick as well. Plugs are simple, easy, quick and inexpensive. I have used them many times, never failed me yet.
 
   / How to Plug a tire? #28  
I realize that the original post approx 9 years old, but felt that I could provide some information about plugs and patches for tubeless tires. Most people buy the red or black colored string plug kits ( Camel, Victor, etc ) which I feel would be ok for lawn mower and similar non-highway equipment. Some posters stated that they have been told how inferior the plugs are compared to patching the tire from the inside. I have approx 35 years of tire repair experience and offer the following advice in the name of safety and economics.

As I stated above, the string type is ok for off road equipment if you are not out in no-mans land, but other than that I can only recommend leaving that stuff on the shelf at the store. A good quality tubeless tire patch or plug that is properly installed in a tire injury can last the usable life of the tire providing the tire was not ruined upon going flat and driving on it, and the injury is not too large to safely hold the plug in the tire.

Go to Napa or other quality automotive stores and buy the professional plug , patches, and insertion tools. The professional type plugs and patches use a chemical cement, and plugs and patches manufactured specifically to react with the chemical cement. When installed properly these plugs and patches are basically cold vulcanized to the tires. Properly installed and given at least 30 minutes to cure after installation, a baby gorilla would have a tough time pulling the plug out. I have never had a plug that I inserted into a tire come out. I do agree that a patch placed inside the tire over the plug can sometimes prevent air leakage from small particles becoming impacted and worked in along side the plug and tire (and this is very rare)..............Now that I am done with my mini rant, I will tell you how I was trained by a factory rep on the proper way to plug tires using the quality materials.

Plugging a tire:

1) Located and remove offending item causing the flat or slow leak. A tub of water or soapy water in a spray bottle will detect the leak by bubbling at the injury location providing there is, or air can be put in the tire.

2) After removing the item causing the leak, determine if the injury hole is small enough to be plugged.

3) Insert the spiral looking awl or even the rasp looking ones after dipping the tool in the liquid tire buffing solution. Be very care and do not use near open flames or sparks or while smoking. The buffing solution is extremely flammable just like some of the chemical cements. Do this a couple times to clean any oils or other debris from the hole. Do this while there is at least a small amount of air in the tire to blow dry the solution.

4) Next, get the proper sized chemical plug inserted in the insertion tool. With air still in the tire, dip the spiral or rasp tool in the chemical cement and insert it in the hole and push it all the way in, then pull it out. Do this at least 2 times turning the tool while it is going in and out. This not only applies the cement, but will also open up the hole to at least the minimum size to accommodate the smallest plug. >>>>>>CAUTION>>>>> Always wear safety glasses not only because of the obvious reasons, but also to keep the stringy chemical cement from getting in your eyes while the air pressure from the tire is blowing the excess out.

5) Dip the entire plug into the chemical cement and briefly allow the excess to drip back into the can. Make sure there is at least 30 psi in the tire. Next, insert the plug following the directions that came with your insertion tool.

6) After the plug has been successfully inserted, air the tire up to the proper psi, and let the tire set for at least 30 minutes.

7) After approx 30 minutes use a razor blade or other sharp tool to cut the plug off flush with the tire.

You have now made a tire repair that is highway worthy and should last as long as the rest of the tire does. It should be noted that it is possible for some inferior chemical cements to turn gooey if the tire encounters extreme heat. People living in the warmer climates may want to consider using a patch on the inside as well.

Even though the chemical patches and plugs along with the related tools will cost you more initially, you will eventually recover the cost by not having to replace a perfectly good tire after the old string stuff popped out causing damage to the tire, and it will save time by not having to repeat same tire repairs.

I hope I did not offend anyone who believes in the string products. I am just concerned about others safety who are/were not aware of other safer quality products.
 
   / How to Plug a tire? #29  
Thanks for the tips. I have used both types, But never considered that the tire needed 30 psi inside when plugging. If it was in directions I must have bypassed it?I take it you don't recommend the sealer inside off-road tires?
 
   / How to Plug a tire? #30  
Thanks for the tips. I have used both types, But never considered that the tire needed 30 psi inside when plugging. If it was in directions I must have bypassed it?I take it you don't recommend the sealer inside off-road tires?

I guess a little prevention never hurts. If I had a unit that I did a lot of off roading I just might put some sealer in the tires. There are a few problems that the sealers can cause. When the tire revolves after the sealer has been added, it can cover the bottom of the valve stem and not allow the air to be released from the tire after the valve stem has been removed. This can be overcome by sticking a small needle through the valve opening. There is another shop in town who was using an ice pick to puncture the tires when this happened, and selling the owner a new tire......it amazes me that this place is still in business.

Sealer in a tire creates some problems when it comes time to repair a tire. The tire guy has to be sure to get the area very clean, so it means all this sticky goo has to be removed in an area large enough to do a prpper repair. If the goo is very thick, we always re-balance the tires if a patch was installed. You would be surprised how much the balance can be affected by the goo removal. It will most always cost you more if the tire place has to remove the goo. But, if I was prone to wheeling in remote areas, I would probably have the stuff in my tires just for peace of mind.

The 30 psi is just a number that I use that seems to work ok when repairing the tires. The factory rep did state some certain psi but I don't remember exactly what is was. You can put in about any psi that you think will give you enough air to complete the job. But you should use some air because it helps clean as the buffing solution is being dried as it blows out, and it helps get the excess chemical cement out of the hole.
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

Deere 9965 Cotton Picker (A51039)
Deere 9965 Cotton...
1-Pallet Misc. Items (A50860)
1-Pallet Misc...
2025 K1912 UNUSED Metal Livestock Shed (A50860)
2025 K1912 UNUSED...
2015 FREIGHTLINER  CASCADIA (INOPERABLE) (A50854)
2015 FREIGHTLINER...
5K BLOWOUT PREVENTER (A50854)
5K BLOWOUT...
2022 Club Car Tempo Golf Cart (A48082)
2022 Club Car...
 
Top