How would you have removed this tree

   / How would you have removed this tree #41  
Agree. Sloped back cuts are intuitively silly.

Silly and useless as others have pointed out.

I worked with a logger some time ago who never cut any kind of notch when felling trees for lumber. He just circled the tree with the saw and "coaxed" it to fall in the direction he wanted. Fun to watch.
 
   / How would you have removed this tree #42  
In this particular case, I don't think it makes a lot of difference whether this guy is a newbie or seasoned professional. Plain and simple LUCK had a lot to do with the outcome. Considering this was the one perfect outcome - there are at least half a dozen, less than perfect, alternate outcomes. This method is not the way a professional would have done it.
I have gotten trees to fall perfectly where I wanted them many times using a hinge to guide the fall. Getting the hinge close to the right direction is easy, and then it falls precisely across the hinge close to where you want it. ... But it does take some luck to eyeball it perfect. - Then it falls perfect unless you are unlucky by having defects in the hinge wood.

,,,,That said, the margin for error in the video was so small, and the consequences so great that eyeballing is ridiculous. Only with instrumentation to align the hinge would I be confident in a true fall required of +/- a degree. The video shows better than that - essentially perfect placement.
 
   / How would you have removed this tree #43  
I would have moves the shed for starters which gives a little more room for error. I have moved a shed before, and it isn't hard. I have access to a bucket truck with a 55' reach, but I don't think it would be tall enough to reach the top of the trees. Bottom line is I wouldn't have cut that tree.
 
   / How would you have removed this tree #44  
I liked the neck stretches the other guy was doing at the beginning of the video. I have dropped a few Douglas firs but never would I ever attempt that tight a drop unless demolition was part of the plan if I missed... I mean hit. :D Definitely this was a candidate for sectioning and lowering in place. But some get greedy with long straight timbers that make for good selling.
 
   / How would you have removed this tree #45  
I have gotten trees to fall perfectly where I wanted them many times using a hinge to guide the fall. Getting the hinge close to the right direction is easy, and then it falls precisely across the hinge close to where you want it. ... But it does take some luck to eyeball it perfect. - Then it falls perfect unless you are unlucky by having defects in the hinge wood.

,,,,That said, the margin for error in the video was so small, and the consequences so great that eyeballing is ridiculous. Only with instrumentation to align the hinge would I be confident in a true fall required of +/- a degree. The video shows better than that - essentially perfect placement.

I once put one stem of a two stemmber between a shed and an outhouse, about 4' alleyway. Perfect. I had two things going for me.

1. That is exactly wehre that stem wanted to go
2. both shed and outlhouse were derelicts - or so I thought. Found out later the farmer wanted to save the outhouse - antique ya know.

LUcky once. I no longer tackle even slightly risky hazaard trees. I cabled one to fall against the slight leand BIG black locust. undercut, back cut and the dtruck loaded with would couldn't pull it even with a 2 to 1 mechanical advantate. bit more on the back cut - same result. Asked the woemen in the house to leave it as there was a good lickely hood that they were going to have tree visit. More nibbling at the back cut, more tries to pull it and finally succeeded. Never ever again!
 
   / How would you have removed this tree #46  
Bottom line is he done a fine job of putting the tree where it had to go, a very tight spot and many posters on here just wish they could do it.
 
   / How would you have removed this tree
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#47  
Bottom line is he done a fine job of putting the tree where it had to go, a very tight spot and many posters on here just wish they could do it.

That is for sure!

I know my skills are quite deficient for a job of that exactness.
 
   / How would you have removed this tree #48  
Bottom line is he done a fine job of putting the tree where it had to go, a very tight spot and many posters on here just wish they could do it.

Or the cajones to try it...!
 
   / How would you have removed this tree #49  
Bottom line is he done a fine job of putting the tree where it had to go, a very tight spot and many posters on here just wish they could do it.
I coulda done it once out of ten. Seven out of ten would be varying damage.
 
   / How would you have removed this tree #50  
I still consider myself an amateur after falling hundreds of trees but I can drive a stake falling a tree. Guys at the breakfasst club wouldn't believe me until I showed them how they themselves could do it. The trick is in "a" stake, I don't say how many I will set up.

Harry K
 

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