HST over Geared tractor

[tessiers]

I've got a 41 farmall H thats never killed anyone, I'll bet my John Deere isn't still running in 2073 but the old H just may be. I guess thats got nothing to do with the tranny but a gear is a lot less sensitive to maintenance and has proven itself with me. I only tried a hydro once and it sucks for mowing, my foot gets tired.

 

[Matt_Jr]

When I first aquired my BX24, the first thing I did when I backed it off the trailer was play with the backhoe. I then mowed the grass. After coming off of a geared tractor, the hydro was counter intuitive to me and caused me to push on the forward pedal when I should have hit the brakes. Definately operator error. It caused me to have to fix my rock perimeter in my burn pit the first few times mowing around it. Now it's second nature. I think the safest thing is to get to know your tractor. Use it as often as you can until it becomes an extension of your body. Then it'll be the safest tractor you'll own(so long as you wear you belt and use the ROPS). As for getting tired of pushing down the pedal.. most hydros have mechanical cruise control that holds the pedal down by pushing a button on the dash. I use it quite often. Never got tired, even while mowing several acres at once.

 

[WH401]

I disagree. I have owned the tractors from 50 and 60 years ago and still have one from 35 years ago. The new ones are easier to operate, and safer to use. Experience is an important component of safe tractor operation, it is not the only component though.


I remember the good old days, used to kill people,

Experience is the most important when it comes to safety. Look at cars for instance, all the safety features in the world won't keep a person safe if they choose to drive like it's the Daytona 500 and there's 42 other cars in front of them. The same goes for a tractor. If you get an inexperienced operator using a couple thousand pound piece of machinery while operating implements that could make Freddy Kruger's victims look like fine artwork, you could end up with the same end result. An experienced operator using a tractor of 50 or 60 years ago compared to a newbie with one of today's tractors will be much safer over and over again.

 

[jenkinsph]

Experience is the most important when it comes to safety. Look at cars for instance, all the safety features in the world won't keep a person safe if they choose to drive like it's the Daytona 500 and there's 42 other cars in front of them. The same goes for a tractor. If you get an inexperienced operator using a couple thousand pound piece of machinery while operating implements that could make Freddy Kruger's victims look like fine artwork, you could end up with the same end result. An experienced operator using a tractor of 50 or 60 years ago compared to a newbie with one of today's tractors will be much safer over and over again.

That may be true about the experienced operator in a gear tractor compared to a newbie with one of today's tractors. So to prove your point you have to make this comparison?

How about an experienced operator in a gear tractor and an experienced operator in one of today's tractors?

I like my old gear tractor and have restored it to like new condition but I am not going to kid myself about which one is easier to operate and control its movements.

 

[Hematite]

Experience is the most important when it comes to safety. Look at cars for instance, all the safety features in the world won't keep a person safe if they choose to drive like it's the Daytona 500 and there's 42 other cars in front of them. The same goes for a tractor. If you get an inexperienced operator using a couple thousand pound piece of machinery while operating implements that could make Freddy Kruger's victims look like fine artwork, you could end up with the same end result. An experienced operator using a tractor of 50 or 60 years ago compared to a newbie with one of today's tractors will be much safer over and over again.

So you compare apples to oranges to make exactly what point?

 

[WH401]

So to prove your point you have to make this comparison?

I believe that's what I typed, do you have a problem with that?

Hi,
I would like to know about the Tractor drive system. I learnt there are HST and Geared transmission. How are they working and which is better economically and which is better by use and which is better in price.
I appreciate for the help.

How about an experienced operator in a gear tractor and an experienced operator in one of today's tractors?

You could compare that, but it's a moot point in the argument since the OP has no experience.

I like my old gear tractor and have restored it to like new condition but I am not going to kid myself about which one is easier to operate and control its movements.

Of course the newer tractors are easier to operate, but that isn't the argument. The argument is about safety, and that whether you have a gear driven tractor or an HST, your only as safe as your experience level.

 

[WH401]

So you compare apples to oranges to make exactly what point?

What?, I thought I typed in English?

 

[buck12]

I've got a 41 farmall H thats never killed anyone, I'll bet my John Deere isn't still running in 2073 but the old H just may be. I guess thats got nothing to do with the tranny but a gear is a lot less sensitive to maintenance and has proven itself with me. I only tried a hydro once and it sucks for mowing, my foot gets tired.

Yep I don't think any tractor, gun, or other object has ever killed anyone except through human involvement through operation, design, or lack of maintenance.

 

[jenkinsph]

I believe that's what I typed, do you have a problem with that?

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You could compare that, but it's a moot point in the argument since the OP has no experience.



Of course the newer tractors are easier to operate, but that isn't the argument. The argument is about safety, and that whether you have a gear driven tractor or an HST, your only as safe as your experience level.

So why did you use a comparision with the experienced operator?

Maybe because the gear tractor requires more experience to operate.

 

[AchingBack]

So why didi you use a comparision with the experienced operator?

Maybe because the gear tractor requires more experience to operate.

Thus, the reason most rental yards buy HST drive tractors. Clutches are quite easily abused, and expensive to replace.